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Why can't a nonabelian group be 75% abelian?

This question asks for intuition, not a proof. An earlier question, Measures of non-abelian-ness was thoroughly answered by Arturo Magidin. A paper by Gustafson1 proves that, for a nonabelian group, ...
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Measures of non-abelian-ness

Let $G$ be a finite non-abelian group of $n$ elements. I would like a measure that intuitively captures the extent to which $G$ is non-commutative. One easy measure is a count of the non-commutative ...
Joseph O'Rourke's user avatar
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What is the probability two random maps on n symbols commute?

It is well known that two randomly chosen permutations of $n$ symbols commute with probability $p_n/n!$ where $p_n$ is the number of partitions of $n$. This is a special case of the fact that in a ...
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Do invariant measures maximize the integral?

Update: The negative answer to the following question has been provided by Matthew Daws, who won, but also rejected, the bounty of 100 euro that I set over the question. Let $\mathcal M(\mathbb Z)$ ...
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Probability of generation of ${\mathbb Z}^2$

What is the probability that three pairs $(a,b) $ , $(c,d) $ and $(e,f) $ of integers generate $\mathbb Z^2$? As usual the probability is the limit as $n\to \infty$ of the same probability for the $n\...
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What is a Gaussian measure?

Let $X$ be a topological affine space. A Gaussian measure on $X$ is characterized by the property that its finite-dimensional projections are multivariate Gaussian distributions. Is there a direct ...
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In an inductive family of groups, does the probability that a particular word is satisfied converge?

We have some group word $w$ in $k$ letters. We say a $k$-tuple of group elements $\vec{g} = (g_1, g_2, \ldots , g_k) \in G^k$ satisfies the word $w$ if $w$ gives the identity at $\vec{g}$. More ...
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"The" random tree

One time I heard a talk about "the" random tree. This tree has one vertex for each natural number, and the edges are constructed probabilistically. Connect vertex $2$ to vertex $1$. Connect vertex $3$ ...
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Generating random finite groups

I would like a method to efficiently generate a random finite group of a given order $n$. If there are $g(n)$ non-isomorphic groups of order $n$, ideally each group would occur with probability $1/g(n)...
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Density of first-order definable sets in a directed union of finite groups

This is a generalization of the following question by John Wiltshire-Gordon. Consider an inductive family of finite groups: $$ G_0 \hookrightarrow G_1 \hookrightarrow \ldots \hookrightarrow G_i \...
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Markov chain on groups

Let $G$ be a permutation group on the finite set $\Omega$. Consider the Markov chain where you start with an element $\alpha \in \Omega$ chosen from some arbitrary starting probability distribution. ...
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Existance of certain almost invariant functions related to amenability and piece-wise transformations

We would like very much to know the answer to the following question: Let $\|\cdot\|$ be any norm on $\mathbb{Z}^d$ and let $W(\mathbb{Z}^d)$ be the group of all bijections of $\mathbb{Z}^d$ such ...
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Can this probability be obtained by a combinatorial/symmetry argument?

Suppose that $a_1,\dots,a_n,b_1,\dots,b_n$ are iid random variables each with a symmetric non-atomic distribution. Let $p$ denote the probability that there is some real $t$ such that $t a_i \ge b_i$ ...
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Probability that a word in the free group becomes (much) shorter?

Let $w$ be a word of length $2\ell$ chosen at random on the alphabet $\{x_1,x_1^{-1},x_2,x_2^{-1},\dotsc,x_k,x_k^{-1}\}$. By the reduction $\rho(w)$ I mean what you obtain by deleting substrings of ...
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In how many steps a random walk visits all the elements of a finite group, with a probability 1/2?

This question is a variation of the return to the origin problem. Let $G$ be the finite group $\mathbb{Z}/n \times \mathbb{Z}/n$ and let the random transformation $T: G \to G$ such that $T(a,b) = (...
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The critical value of percolation on Cayley graphs.

Let $\Gamma$ be a discrete group with a generating set $S$. Let $p_c(\Gamma,S)$ be the critical probability for percolation of the Cayley graph of $\Gamma$. Is it known that if $\Gamma$ is non-...
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Probability that a random element of a group is trivial

Let $G$ be an infinite group with a finite generating set $S$. For $n \geq 1$, let $p_n$ be the probability that a random word in $S \cup S^{-1}$ of length at most $n$ represents the identity. Is it ...
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Entropy of a measure

Let $\mu$ be a probability measure on a set of $n$ elements and let $p_i$ be the measure of the $i$-th element. Its Shannon entropy is defined by $$ E(\mu)=-\sum_{i=1}^np_i\log(p_i) $$ with the ...
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Probability of commutation in a compact group

It is well known that if $G$ is a finite group, then the probability that two elements commutte is either $1$ (if $G$ is abelian) or less than or equal to $\frac58$. If instead $K$ is a compact group,...
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How nearly abelian are nilpotent groups?

It is not uncommon to read that "nilpotent groups are 'close to abelian'."1,2 Can this sentiment be made precise in the sense of the Turán and Erdős definition of "the probability that two elements of ...
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Idempotent measures on the free binary system?

Let $(S,*)$ be the free (non associative) binary system on one generator (so $S$ is just the set of terms in $*$ and $1$). There is an extension of $*$ to the space $P(S)$ of finitely additive ...
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Does asymmetric fraction of finite groups tend to $0$?

Let’s define asymmetric fraction of a finite group $G$ as the number $$\mathrm{af}(G) = \frac{|\{(g, a) \in G \times \mathrm{Aut}(G)\mid a(g) = g\}|}{|G|\cdot|\mathrm{Aut}(G)|}.$$ Equivalently it can ...
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Looking for at least one beautiful and not too technical result in asymptotic group theory

We have a student seminar devoted to the problems of asymptotic group theory with some connections to ergodic theory and measure theory in general. Each talk concerns one of the problems of this ...
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Estimate on currents in Cayley graphs

Take a Cayley graph $\Gamma$ (thought of as an electrical network with all edges having equal resistance) and break one edge $e$ and put a battery there. (Assume the graph has only one end* so that ...
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Which results in probabilistic group theory generalize from finite groups to compact Hausdorff groups (and which don't)?

Let $G$ be a finite group. It has been shown that: If the probability that two randomly selected elements of $G$ generate an abelian group is greater than $5/8$, $G$ is abelian. If the probability ...
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fixed points of permutation groups

As is well-known (see, for example, a nice exposition by our own Qiaochu: https://qchu.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/fixed-points-of-random-permutations/) that the distribution of the number of fixed ...
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Random walks and Lyapunov exponents

Given a sequence $Y_1, Y_2, \dots$ of i.i.d. matrices in $\mathrm{GL}_n(\mathbb R)$, there is a theorem of Furstenberg and Kesten which says that if $\mathbb E(\log\|Y_1\|)$ is finite, there exists a ...
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Group Theory, Game Theory, a bit of Philosophy and a post in Tao's blog

I've decided to write this post after reading the incredibly beautiful and highly recomended post by Terence Tao http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/ultrafilters-nonstandard-analysis-and-epsilon-...
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Where can I find analogues of combinatorial central limit theorems for other groups

The statement of Hoeffding's combinatorial central limit theorem is as follows: given for each $n$, an $n \times n$ matrix $A = (a_{ij})$, one can consider the random diagonal sum: $$\displaystyle f(\...
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Symmetries of probability distributions

When talking about a single random variable, knowing only its distribution, the construction of a probability space is quite easy. Namely, let $(X,\mathscr A)$ be a measurable space and let $\mathsf Q$...
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Return probabilities for random walks on infinite Schreier graphs

Question: Is there a sequence $(\delta_n)_n$ of real numbers with $\delta_n \to 0$ as $n \to \infty$, such that the following holds: Let $F$ be a free group on two generators, let $F \curvearrowright ...
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Where has this structure been observed?

$\newcommand{\M}{\mathcal{M}}$Let $M$ be a monoid. Consider the following structure: $R_X,R_Y:\mathbb{Z}^2 \to M$ satisfying the following "compatiblity-relation": $$R_X (x, y) \cdot R_Y (x +...
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Symmetric groups and Poisson processes

Consider the number of fixed points in a permutation chosen uniformly at random from the symmetric group on $n$ elements - this gives a probability distribution. For $k < n$, the $k$-th moments of ...
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Random Walks in $Z^2$/$Z^2$-intrinsic characterization of Euclidean distance

Problem: Consider a random walk on the lattice $\mathbb{Z}^2$ where on each iteration a particle either stays at its current location or moves to a neighboring vertex with probability 1/5. We start ...
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measure with given push-forwards

Let $X,Y$ be locally compact spaces (in my specific case, they are locally compact groups). Suppose that we are given a measure $\mu$ on $X$ and a finite number of quotient maps $p_1,\ldots,p_n:Y\...
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Cubic almost-vertex-transitive graphs with given spanning tree

Consider the infinite 3-regular tree. Pick a vertex $C$, the "center". For any integer $L\ge 1$ consider the closed ball, in the graph distance, of radius $L$ around $C$. Let $T_L$ be the induced ...
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The Odds 3 (or More) Group Elements Commute

Some time ago I asked about the odds 2 group elements commute. I wonder about the odds that 3 group elements commute. Is there a "closed" formula for the sum $$ \frac{1}{|G|^3} \sum_{g,h,k} \delta([...
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Constant Martin kernel and amenability

Consider a finitely supported random walk on a discrete group G such that the support generates $G$ as a semigroup. The Martin kernels are then non-negative functions on the product $G \times M$ where ...
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What is the probability that a random subset of a finite group is generic?

Definition 1: Given a group $G$, a subset $X \subseteq G$, and a natural number $k$, we say that $X$ is (left) $k$-generic in $G$ if there are $k$ many left translates of $X$ that cover $G$. That is, ...
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Many Brownian motions moving together

Let $ (B^i),\:{{i=1,\ldots,n}}$ be a set of independent Brownian motions. By $(X^i)$ we denote $(B^i)$ conditioned on the event $|B^i_t-B_t^{i+1}|\leq 1,\quad \forall_{1\leq i\leq n-1}, \forall_{t\...
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Superharmonic functions and amenability

Let $G$ be a group generated by a finite set $S$. Let $P$ be a Markov operator defined by the uniform measure on $S$. A function is superharmonic if $Pf\leq f$. Assume that there is a set of non-...
Kate Juschenko's user avatar
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Random Walks in $Z^2$/$Z^2$-intrinsic characterization of Euclidean distance Part II

For some context see Random Walks in $Z^2$/$Z^2$-intrinsic characterization of Euclidean distance As per Noah's answer and JBL's comment this was false as stated. However, I think the following ...
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An Expectation of Cohen-Lenstra Measure

The Cohen-Lenstra measure on the set of abelian p-groups assigns $\mathbb{P}(G) = \prod_{i \geq 1} \left( 1 - \frac{1}{p^i}\right) \cdot |\mathrm{Aut}(G)|^{-1} $. Apparently, this is equivalent to ...
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The probability that two elements of a finite nonabelian simple group commute

It is mentioned in here (last paragraph of the first page) that Dixon proved the following result: the probability that two elements of a finite nonabelian simple group commute is at most $\frac{1}{12}...
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Is there an algebraically normal function from $\mathbb{Z}^{n}$ to $\{ 0 , 1\}$?

Definition: Let $h$ be a polynomial in $n$ variables, then : $\gamma(h,r,R):=\{ v \in \mathbb{Z}^{n} : \vert h(v) \vert \leq r, \Vert v \Vert < R \}$ Let $\omega : \mathbb{Z}^{n} \to \{ 0 , 1\}$...
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Random pro-p groups via iterated uniformly random central extensions

Inspired by this question on math.se, I want to understand the following construction of a random pro-$p$ group: We want to construct an inverse system $$\cdots \xrightarrow{\alpha_i} G_i \...
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Growth of spheres in FINITE nilpotent groups - Gaussian approximation (central limit theorem)?

Standard setup. Consider a group and choose generators. Word-metric (or in the other words - distance on the Cayley graph of the group+generators) - converts a group into a metric space, which is ...
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Distribution of the sizes of conjugacy classes in the symmetric group.

This recent question makes me wonder: is there some known limit theorem for the distribution of the sizes of conjugacy classes in the symmetric group $S_n?$ A quick search seems to reveal nothing ...
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Intrinsically measurable subsets of amenable semigroups.

This question is related to the one in https://mathoverflow.net/questions/65322/the-structure-of-certain-maximal-sets-of-means-into-amenable-semigroups. I open a different topic because they can be ...
Valerio Capraro's user avatar
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Comparing $X+Y$ and $X-Y$ for independent random variables with values in an abelian locally compact group

Let $G$ be an abelian locally (separable?) compact group with Haar measure $\mu$. Inspired by the interesting proof of A sum of two binomial random variables : Let $X$ and $Y$ be $G$-valued ...
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