Questions tagged [forcing]
Forcing is a method first used to prove the continuum hypothesis is independent of the classical axioms of set theory
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Similarities between Post's Problem and Cohen's Forcing
Remark: I have since learned that G.H. Moore addresses this question in the third reference listed at the end of this post, beginning on p. 157 in which he cites a letter from Kreisel to Gödel dated 4/...
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Woodin's unpublished proof of the global failure of GCH
An unpublished result of Woodin says the following:
Theorem. Assuming the existence of large cardinals, it is consistent that $\forall \lambda, 2^{\lambda}=\lambda^{++}.$
In the paper "The ...
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Forcing as a tool to prove theorems
It is often mentioned the main use of forcing is to prove independence facts, but it also seems a way to prove theorems. For instance how would one try to prove Erdös-Rado, $\beth_n^{+} \to (\aleph_1)...
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Can $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1,\omega}$ detect $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1,\omega}$-equivalence?
Roughly speaking, say that a logic $\mathcal{L}$ is self-equivalence-defining (SED) iff for each finite signature $\Sigma$ there is a larger signature $\Sigma'\supseteq\Sigma\sqcup\{A,B\}$ with $A,B$ ...
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Relationship between fragments of the axiom of choice and the dependent choice principles
The dependent choice principle ${\rm DC}_\kappa$ states that if $S$ is a nonempty set and $R$ is a binary relation such that for every $s\in S^{\lt\kappa}$, there is $x\in S$ with $sRx$, then there ...
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Resembling the Levy Collapse
Suppose $\kappa$ is a weakly compact cardinal. Is there a $\kappa$-c.c. forcing $\mathbb{P}$ such that $\mathbb{P} \subseteq V_\kappa$ and $\Vdash_{\mathbb{P}} \kappa = \aleph_1$, where $\mathbb{P}$ ...
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Singularizing forcing of "small" cardinality?
Can there be a large cardinal $\kappa$ and a forcing of size $\kappa$ that makes $\kappa$ a singular cardinal? The motivation is that the standard Prikry forcing does not have a dense set of size $\...
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Which forcings preserve (some) determinacy?
The question is exactly as in the title. I'm interested in general in all questions of the form "which forcings preserve property P?" for any P, but determinacy assumptions occupy a special place in ...
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Forcing with c.c.c forcing notions, Cohen reals and Random reals
I think the following question is due to Prikry:
Question. Is it consistent that any non-trivial c.c.c forcing notion adds a Cohen real or a Random real?
Is the question still open? What partial ...
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Examples of ZFC theorems proved via forcing
This is an old suggestion of Joel David Hamkins at the end of his answer to this question: Forcing as a tool to prove theorems
I just noticed it while trying to understand his answer. But indeed it ...
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Questions about $\aleph_1-$closed forcing notions
"Foreman`s maximality principle" states that every non-trivial forcing notion either adds a real or collapses some cardinals. This principle has many consequences including:
1) $GCH$ fails everywhere,...
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Failure of diamond at large cardinals
What is known about the failure of $\Diamond_{\kappa}$ (diamond at $\kappa$) for $\kappa$ (the least) inaccessible, (the least) Mahlo and (the least) weakly compact.
Remark. The problem of forcing ...
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A new cardinal characteristic (related to partitions)?
In this post I will discuss some cardinal characteristic of the continuum, related to partitions of $\omega$ and would like to know if it is equal to some known cardinal characteristic.
By a partition ...
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Definability of ground model
I have seen mentioned that by a result of Laver, the ground model is definable in any set forcing extension (using parameters).
Does the same hold for class forcing? If it does, in order to establish ...
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Reals added after Cohen forcing
Let $V_1$ be a generic extension of $V\models GCH$ obtained by adding $\aleph_{\omega}-$many Cohen reals. Then we have the following:
1- In $V_1$ there are $\aleph_{\omega+1}-$many reals,
2- In $V_1$...
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Tractability of forcing-invariant statements under large cardinals
It is usual to mention theorems of the kind:
Th. Assume there is a proper class of Woodin cardinals, $\mathbb{P} $ is a partial order and $G \subseteq \mathbb{P}$ is V-generic, then $V \models \phi \...
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Can the Cohen forcing collapse cardinals?
Let $\kappa$ be a regular cardinal, and let $\mathbb{P} = Add(\kappa,1)$ be the standard forcing notion for adding a new subset of $\kappa$ using partial function from $\kappa$ to $2$ with domain of ...
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Mutually generics
Given posets $P,Q\in M$, I would like to know under what circumstances there are mutually generic filters $G\subseteq P$ and $H\subseteq Q$ (generic over $M$). Also, what are the characterizations of ...
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Producing finite objects by forcing!
It is a trivial fact that forcing can not produce finite sets of ground model objects. However there are situations,
where we can use forcing to prove the existence of finite objects with some ...
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A limit to Shoenfield Absoluteness
Shoenfield's Absoluteness Theorem states that if $\phi$ is any $\Sigma^1_2$ sentence of second-order arithmetic, then $\phi$ is absolute between any two models of $ZF$ which share the same ordinals. ...
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Forcing over set theory versus forcing over arithmetic
I've been trying to understand better some of the research on forcing over bounded arithmetic and its connections with lower bounds in complexity theory. For example, Takeuti and Yasumoto have some ...
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When can power sets be limit cardinals?
My original question (posted in here at the Math.SE) was:
Is it possible to create a model of ZFC, so that the cardinality of each power set is a limit cardinal (as opposed to GCH where they are ...
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Can measures be added by forcing?
The Lévy-Solovay theorem says that small forcings do not create measures. J.D. Hamkins has generalized this to a larger class of forcings called gap forcings. I would assume this cannot be ...
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Minimum transitive models and V=L
Is there a c.e. theory $T⊢\text{ZFC}$ in the language of set theory such that the minimum transitive model of $T$ exists but does not satisfy $V=L$?
You may assume that ZFC has transitive models. ...
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Products of Cohen forcings
Let $\lambda$ be an infinite cardinal. Does the full support product of $\lambda$ copies of $Add(\omega, 1)$ collapse $2^\lambda$ to $\aleph_0$?
For $\lambda = \omega$, it is known to be true (it is ...
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Reverse-engineer forcing: am I reinventing the wheel?
In the course of a project I’m working on, I’ve started playing around with a sort of “reverse-engineering” forcing. It seems interesting, but
I have a sinking feeling I’m reinventing the wheel; does ...
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Is it possible for countably closed forcing to collapse $\aleph_2$ to $\aleph_1$ without collapsing the continuum?
Suppose the continuum is larger than $\aleph_2$. Does there exist a countably closed notion of forcing that collapses $\aleph_2$ to $\aleph_1$, but does not collapse the continuum to $\aleph_1$? ...
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Forcing over an arbitrary model of ZFC
I’m learning set theory and forcing in the (french) book from Jean-Louis Krivine “Théorie des ensembles”.
Given a countable transitive model $\mathscr{M}$ of ZFC together with a poset $P$, he ...
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The (non-)absoluteness of second-order elementary equivalence
Elementary equivalence is set-theoretically absolute between any two transitive models of set theory; this is also true for the infinitary logics - e.g., $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$ - at least, ...
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Can we change the Lebesgue measure by forcing?
Suppose $M$ is a model of ZFC, and $\mu^M$ is the Lebesgue measure on $\mathbb R^M$ such that $\mu^M(\mathbb R^M)=1$. It is known that if $r$ is a Cohen real over $M$ and $N=M[r]$ then $\mu^N(\mathbb ...
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Some questions about $0^{\sharp}$ and forcing over $L$
1-Let $P\in L$ be a nontrivial set forcing or even a tame class forcing (tameness in the sense of Sy Friedman; see for example his Handbook paper), and let $G$ be $P-$generic over $L$. Then it is well-...
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Forcing Diamond
It is well known that adding a subset of a regular cardinal $\kappa$ with partial functions of size $< \kappa$ forces $\Diamond_\kappa$. One can also see that if $S \in V$ is a stationary subset ...
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Questions about Prikry forcing and Cohen forcing
I have some questions.
The first one is about the product of Prikry's forcing.
Let $\kappa$ be a measurable cardinal, $U_1, U_2$ be normal measures on $\kappa$ and let $\mathbb{P}_{U_1}, \mathbb{P}...
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Why do we need a transitive model in forcing arguments?
One major approach to the theory of forcing is to assume that ZFC has a countable transitive model $M \in V$ (where $V$ is the "real" universe). In this approach, one takes a poset $\mathbb{P} \in M$, ...
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Is $\mathfrak j_{2:1}=\mathfrak{j}_{2:2}$ in ZFC?
A function $f:\omega\to\omega$ is called
$\bullet$ 2-to-1 if $|f^{-1}(y)|\le 2$ for any $y\in\omega$;
$\bullet$ almost injective if the set $\{y\in \omega:|f^{-1}(y)|>1\}$ is finite.
Let us ...
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What is the precise relationship between forcing on a poset and the topos of double-negation sheaves on this poset?
I've seen various statements that the Boolean-valued models of ZFC occurring in model-theoretic forcing are "really" the topos of sheaves on an appropriate site, but never a fully precise statement. ...
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Forcing mildly over a worldly cardinal.
A cardinal $\theta$ is worldly if $V_{\theta}$ is a model of ZFC. We could force to collapse $\theta$ to a successor cardinal, for example, and destroy the worldliness of $\theta$, but is there a ...
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Intersection of two generic extensions
It is well known that the intersection of two models of ZFC does not have to be a model of ZFC (or even ZF). Now what if we restrict ourselves to models $M[G]$, $M[H]$ which are generic over $M$ for ...
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Formal proof of Con(ZFC) => Con(ZFC + not CH) in ZFC
Is it possible to prove $Con(ZFC) \rightarrow Con(ZFC + \neg CH)$ purely within ZFC? To prove this (using forcing) one seems to need a countable transitive model of ZFC. The texts I am reading avoid ...
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Is there a forcing closure?
The main theorem of forcing says that for any c.t.m of $ZFC$ like $M$ and for all partial order $\mathbb{P}$ and $\mathbb{P}$-generic $G$ over $M$, there is a c.t.m of $ZFC$, like $N$ such that $N$ is ...
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A proposed axiom of Laver (updated)
A few months back, I posted a question asking about a proposed axiom of Laver's and I, unfortunately, left out a critical piece. Here is the full axiom:
(L) Some elementary embedding $j:V_{\lambda+1}...
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Restricted notions of set-theoretic geology
We say that $W$ is a ground of the universe $V$ if $W$ is a model of ZFC and there is a poset $P\in W$ such that $W[G]=V$ for some $G$ which is $P$-generic over $W$. The Ground Axiom ($\text{GA}$) ...
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A question on simple $P_{\aleph_2}$-points
This question is motivated by discussion surrounding this MO question.
An ultrafilter $U$ on $\omega$ is a simple $P_{\aleph_2}$-point if it is generated by a sequence $\langle X_\alpha:\alpha<\...
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Consistency results using nonstandard models
Are there any consistency results in set theory (or in mathematics) that can be proved using nonstandard models of ZFC but not using transitive models of ZFC?
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Why are some axioms preserved in generic extensions?
It is a known theorem that for a model of $ZF$, $M$, if $M\models AC$ and $G$ is a $P$-generic filter over $M$, for some $P\in M$, then $M[G]\models AC$.
On the other hand, it is long known that ...
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Is the ordering principle preserved in generic extensions?
The ordering principle says that every set can be linearly ordered.
In a previous question Why are some axioms preserved in generic extensions? Asaf Karagila asked which axioms are preserved in ...
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Approximation of infinite set in generic extension
Suppose $M$ is a c.t.m and suppose $P$ is $Fn(I,2)$ where $I$ is infinite. Now suppose $G$ is $P$-generic, and $A \in M[G]$ is infinite set.
Is it guaranteed that the exist $B \in M$ such that $B \...
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Getting measures (especially on $\omega_2$) from potential clubs
This is a spinoff of this earlier question of mine.
Short version:
What measures in $L(\mathbb{R})$ can be gotten from "potentially club" filters, under appropriate hypotheses?
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Which notions of forcing add a cofinal branch to an $\omega_1$-tree?
I'd like to know more about forcing to add a cofinal branch to an $\omega_1$-tree.
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What kinds of forcings add cofinal branches to $\omega_1$-trees? What kinds of forcings cannot?
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A better way to explain forcing?
Let me begin by formulating a concrete (if not 100% precise) question, and then I'll explain what my real agenda is.
Two key facts about forcing are (1) the definability of forcing; i.e., the ...
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