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Forcing is a method first used to prove the continuum hypothesis is independent of the classical axioms of set theory

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Where do uncountable models collapse to?

Suppose $T$ is a complete first-order theory (in an finite, or at worst countable, language). Given any model $\mathcal{M}\models T$ of cardinality $\kappa$, we can ask whether $\mathcal{M}$ can be ...
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What examples of existence forcing proofs are there?

Forcing proofs tend to be fairly constructive, in the sense that if I claim that there is a forcing that does something, I usually prove this by constructing that forcing. There are only a handful of ...
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Gitik's work on Shelah's weak hypothesis

It seems that Moti Gitik has recently refuted some variants of Shelah's weak hypothesis. For this see the title and abstract of his talk at the Set Theory, Model Theory and Applications conference. I ...
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Souslin trees and weakly compact cardinals

In Souslin trees on the first inaccessible cardinal it is asked if it is consistent that there are no $\kappa-$Souslin trees at the least inaccessible cardinal $\kappa$. In this question I would like ...
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Cohen/Random reals over intermediate models in countable support iterations

Assume that the continuum is $\aleph_2$ in our ground model $V$. Suppose that $(P_n \, : \, n \in \omega)$ is a fully supported iteration of length $\omega$. Suppose further that the factors of the ...
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O-minimality and forcing

It is well-known that the structure $(\mathbb{R}, +, \cdot, <, 0, 1)$ is an o-minimal structure and hence the set of integers $\mathbb{Z}$ is not definable in it. In an ongoing project with Will ...
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The failure of GCH al $\aleph_\omega$ by nice forcing

There are several ways to force $GCH$ below $\aleph_\omega$ and $2^{\aleph_\omega}> \aleph_{\omega+1},$ say: 1) The Gitik-Magidor's extender based forcing, see Prikry type Forcings. 2) Woodin's ...
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Is $\kappa \rightarrow [\kappa]^2_3$ the same as $\kappa \rightarrow [\kappa]^2_2$ for inaccessible $\kappa$

The principle $\kappa \rightarrow [\kappa]^2_\alpha$ states that whenever we have a coloring $c:[\kappa]^2\rightarrow \alpha$ there is $H \subset \kappa$ of size $\kappa$ s.t. $|c"[H]^2|<\alpha$. ...
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Can a generic $\mathbb{R}$ have a new cardinality?

This question was asked and bountied at MSE, without success. My main question is whether, starting with a model of determinacy, a "generic $\mathbb{R}$" could be different in cardinality ...
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What happens when you iterate Cohen reals?

There are a few classical theorems in set theory: The finite support iteration of ccc forcing is ccc. The countable support iteration of proper forcing is proper. The finite support iteration of ...
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Generic $\mathbf{\Sigma}_3^1$-absoluteness for class forcings

In the paper "Generic Absoluteness" by Bagaria and Friedman (http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~sdf/papers/bagfried.pdf) it is shown that in ZFC generic $\mathbf{\Sigma_3^1}$-absoluteness is false for ...
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Adding a saturated ideal

Is it consistent that there is no $\omega_2$-saturated ideal on $\omega_1$, but one is introduced by an $\omega_2$-closed forcing? Some motivation: If $\delta$ is a Woodin cardinal, then it remains ...
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Can we bound $2^{\aleph_\omega}$ without pcf theory?

One of the famous applications of pcf theory is that if $\aleph_\omega$ is a strong limit cardinal then $2^{\aleph_\omega}<\aleph_{\omega_4}$. I'm curious whether any weaker result with the same ...
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$\Sigma^2_1$ and the Continuum Hypothesis

This is a follow up to Will Brian's answer to this recent question. In particular, quoting Brian: "In fact, Paul Larson has pointed out to me that the statement "$\phi$ and $\phi^{-1}$ are conjugate"...
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Preservation of chain condition under strategically closed forcing

It is well-known that $\kappa$-closed forcing preserves $\kappa$-c.c. posets. The same argument works for $\kappa$-strategically closed forcing. Here is the definition: A poset $\mathbb P$ is $\...
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On the relationship between Martin's Axiom, the countable chain condition and the Knaster property

This is a repost of a question that went unanswered on MSE We say that a poset $P$ has the Knaster property (or is Knaster) if every uncountable subset of $P$ contains an uncountable subset of ...
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c.c.c forcing notions and adding minimal generic reals

Is the following statement consistent: ``There is no non-trivial c.c.c forcing notion adding a minimal generic real''? The question is related to Prikry's question: Is it consistent that any non-...
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Preserving Jonsson cardinals

I am (still) interested in trying to characterize and describe forcings that preserve Jonsson cardinals. A cardinal $\kappa$ is a Jonsson cardinal if there is no Jonsson algebra on $\kappa$, i.e. ...
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Some questions about $0^{\sharp}$ and forcing over $L$

1-Let $P\in L$ be a nontrivial set forcing or even a tame class forcing (tameness in the sense of Sy Friedman; see for example his Handbook paper), and let $G$ be $P-$generic over $L$. Then it is well-...
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Martin's Maximum implies stationary/club Chang's conjecture?

Chang's Conjecture (CC) states: for any $f: [\omega_2]^{<\omega} \to \omega_1$, there exists a set $X\subset \omega_2$ of order type $\omega_1$ such that $|f''[X]^{<\omega}|\leq \aleph_0$. ...
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What kind of objects can code a universe?

Jensen proved that given $V\models\sf ZFC+GCH$, there is a class generic real $r$, such that $V[r]=L[r]$, and no cardinals are collapsed. We know that this can be modified such that $r$ is minimal, i....
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Isomorphisms mod nonstationary

Suppose $G \subseteq \mathrm{Add}(\omega_1)$ is generic over $V$. Let $X_i = \{ \alpha : G(\alpha) = i \}$. Is it true that $P(X_0)/\mathrm{NS} \cong P(X_1)/\mathrm{NS}$?
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Adjoints to forcing

Forcing over a partial order $P$ can be viewed in a category theoretic sense as constructing the presheaf topos ${\bf Set}^{P^{op}}$ over the partial order (viewed as a category) then passing through ...
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stationary reflection in $[\kappa]^\omega$

It is well-known that the following reflection principle is consistent relative to a supercompact: For all $\kappa \geq \omega_2$ and all stationary $S \subseteq [\kappa]^\omega$, there is $X \...
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On the Number of Parallel Automorphism Lines

Given a group $G$, one can define the transfinite line of iterative automorphisms of $G$ to be the following chain of the groups where $G_{\alpha+1}=Aut(G_{\alpha})$ for each ordinal $\alpha$ and the ...
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A variant of strong ideals, is it consistent?

Is it consistent relative to large cardinals that there is a precipitous ideal on $\omega_1$ forcing a generic elementary embedding $j : V \to M \subseteq V[G]$, such that $j(\omega_1) = \omega_n^V$ ...
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When does $HOD^{V[G]} \subseteq V$?

Assume that $\mathbb{P}\in HOD$ is non-trivial. It is well-known that if $\mathbb{P}$ satisfies some homogeneity properties, then $HOD^{V[G]} \subseteq V$, where $G$ is $\mathbb{P}$-generic over $V$. ...
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preserving saturated ideals

A reliable source made the following claim: Suppose CH there is an $\omega_2$-saturated ideal on $\omega_1$. Then this is preserved by $\mathrm{Add}(\omega_1,\omega_2)$. Question 1: How do you ...
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Existence of a regular subposet which collapses everything except the top cardinal

Suppose $\delta$ is an inaccessible cardinal, and $\mathbb{P}$ is the Levy Collapse $\text{Col}(\kappa, \delta)$ which adds a surjection from $\kappa \to \delta$ (for some regular $\kappa < \delta$)...
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Inner model of "CH + large cardinals" that satisfies MM?

I've been told that if $V$ has CH and large cardinals, then there is an inner model in which MM holds. The sketch is as follows: Any $\Sigma^2_1$ sentence that can be forced is already true in such $V$...
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Naive way to violate $\mathsf{SCH}$ at $\aleph_\omega$

I asked this question on MSE and got a partial answer. Shamefully I still haven't figured out myself a full answer, so I would like to ask it here. The usual way to get the failure of $\mathsf{SCH}$ ...
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Non-closed Neeman forcing

This question is something of a follow-up to this one: Iterating Neeman's forcing It regards the work of Itay Neeman, MR3201836. Neeman formulates his two-type models forcing seemingly in greater ...
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Distributivity of certain infinite products

Suppose we have a sequence of posets $\{\mathbb P_n : n\in\omega\}$ such that for each $n$, $\mathbb P_{n+1}$ is $|\mathbb P_n|^+$-distributive. Is $\prod_{n>0} \mathbb P_n$ necessarily $|\mathbb ...
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Strong Chains in $^{\omega_1}\omega_1$ of length $\omega_3$

In a previous question, I asked about the impact of strong chains in $^{\omega_1}\omega_1$ (e.g., sequences of functions $\langle f_\alpha:\alpha<\kappa\rangle$ in $^{\omega_1}\omega_1$ that are ...
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On the role of $\diamondsuit$

The well-known axiom $\diamondsuit$ states that there is a sequence $\langle A_\alpha:\alpha<\omega_1\rangle$ (a $\diamondsuit$-sequence) of countable sets with the property that for any $A\...
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Sacks property for higher cardinals

It is well known, that the Sacks forcing has the property that for any $f: \omega \rightarrow \omega$ in generic extension, one can obtain $F:\omega \rightarrow [\omega]^{<\omega}$ in ground model, ...
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Analogue of strong stationary reflection from MM

Foreman-Magidor-Shelah proved that if Martin’s Maximum holds, then for every regular $\kappa>\omega_1$, every stationary $S \subseteq S^\kappa_\omega$ contains a club of ordertype $\omega_1$. This ...
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How many iterations of inner models/generic extensions are sufficient?

Let $M=M_0$ be a ctm of ZF. If $(M_0, \ldots, M_n)$ is a sequence of ctms of ZF, where for all $i,$ either $M_{i+1}$ is an inner model of $M_i$ or a generic extension of $M_i,$ then call $M_n$ an $n$-...
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Direct limits of $\sigma$-centered forcing notions

It is quite well known that Any FS (finite support) iteration of length $<\mathfrak{c}^+$ of $\sigma$-centered posets is $\sigma$-centered (see e.g. here). Now consider the following question: ...
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A new maximality principle and its consequences

Let us consider the following maximality principle: $(MP_*):$ For all uncountable regular cardinals $\kappa, 2^{<\kappa}=\kappa^{+}$ and all trees of height and size $\kappa$ are specialized. It ...
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Homogeneity of a variant of Prikry forcing

Prikry forcing is easily seen to be cone homogeneous (for any $p, q \in \mathbb{P}$, there are $p' \leq p, q' \leq q$ and an isomorphism $\Phi: \mathbb{P}/p' \simeq \mathbb{P}/q'$); in particular for ...
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On an unpublished result of Magidor

In 1970th, Magidor proved the following important results: (1) Assuming the existence of a supercompact cardinal, it is consistent that $\aleph_\omega$ is strong limit and $2^{\aleph_\omega}=\aleph_{\...
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History of preservation theorems in forcing theory

For my honours thesis, I am studying a general preservation theorem using a framework provided by Shelah. I am mainly concerned about revised countable support iteration of $\dot{S}$-semiproper ...
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Which forcing types preserve the axiom of determinacy?

Do we have some rudimentary understanding of some properties that a forcing can have in order to guarantee that it doesn't violate the axiom of determinacy? To be more specific, in Which forcings ...
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Forcing axiom for Mathias forcing

Given a poset $\mathbb{P}$, let $\mathsf{FA}(\kappa,\mathbb{P})$ denote the assertion that for every family of dense sets $\mathcal{D}$ with $|\mathcal{D}| = \kappa$, there is a filter $G \subseteq \...
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ladder system uniformization at successors of singulars

Shelah proved (paper 667) that if GCH holds and $\lambda$ is singular, then for every stationary $S \subseteq \{ \alpha < \lambda^+ : \text{cf}(\alpha) = \text{cf}(\lambda) \}$, there is a ladder ...
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Topological applications of $\mathfrak{p}=\mathfrak{t}$

I'm working on the Malliaris-Shelah's recent result of $\mathfrak{p}=\mathfrak{t}$, but I'm more interested in what possible topological applications can derivate from this equality. Searching in ...
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Specializing fat trees

The discussion is about trees of height $\omega_1$ that are not necessarily thin, namely, no cardinality constraints on the size of each level. A classcial theorem of Baumgartner states that it is ...
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When can we force two frames to be homeomorphic?

Recall that if $M,N$ are two structures of the same type, then $M$ is $\mathcal{L}_{\infty,\omega}$ elementarily equivalent to $N$ precisely when $M$ and $N$ are isomorphic in some forcing extension. ...
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PCF conjecture and fixed points of the $\aleph$-function

Recently Moti Gitik refuted Shelah's PCF conjecture, by producing a countable set $a$ of regular cardinals with $|\operatorname{pcf}(a)| \geq \aleph_1.$ See his papers Short extenders forcings I and ...
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