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### How much determinacy do you need for second order arithmetic to be as strong as ZFC?

From Wikipedia (I couldn't find the original source): $\text{ZFC} + \{\text{there are$n$Woodin cardinals:$n$is a natural number}\}$ is conservative over $\text{Z}_2$ with projective determinacy. ...
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### Is determinacy of (some) very long open games consistent?

For $\varphi$ a first-order sentence in the language of set theory and $\kappa$ an ordinal, let $G_\varphi^{\kappa}$ be the game of length $\kappa$ in which players $1$ and $2$ alternately play ...
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### What is the complexity of the winning condition in infinite Hex? In particular, is infinite Hex a Borel game?

Consider the game of infinite Hex, where two players Red and Blue alternately place their stones on the infinite hex grid, each aiming to create a winning configuration. Red wins after infinite play, ...
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### Another determinacy-related cardinal characteristic

This question is a kind of "dual" to an earlier one of mine. Although I don't know a reference for this, it's easy to show the following result: Suppose $G$ is a game in which neither ...
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### Does determinacy imply unravellability for the Borel sets (over a weak base theory)?

As far as I know, the only way we currently know how to prove Borel determinacy in $\mathsf{ZFC}$ is to go through unravelability (a rather technical property whose definition can be found in Martin's ...
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### Analytic sets and Turing determinacy

I wonder whether the following question have a positive answer within $ZFC$. Question If $\{A_n\}_{n\in \omega}$ is a sequence of analytic sets so that $\bigcup_n A_n=2^{\omega}$, then there must be ...
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### I can't believe it's not Replacement!

(I feel like I might have to apologise in advance for this question, but oh well..) I just rediscovered a comment from Asaf K here on MO that states that full Replacement is not needed for Borel ...
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### Determinacy of symmetric games

Is it consistent that for all ordinals $α$ and $λ$ and infinite regular cardinals $κ$, games on $V_λ$ with game length $κα$ and $\mathrm{OD}(\mathrm{On}^κ)$ payoff that depends only on the set of all ...
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### The Rise and Fall of Dictators & How it Depends on Our Choice

This question is loosely inspired by the following paper of Shelah on Arrow property in which he answered a question of Gil Kalai affirmatively. Shelah, Saharon, On the Arrow property. Adv. in Appl. ...
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### Is $Z_3+{\rm AD}$ equiconsistent with $\text{ZFC+AD}^{L(\mathbb{R})}$

Let $Z_2$ and $Z_3$ be second and third order arithmetics respectively. In $Z_2$'s language, $\text{AD}$ (the axiom of determinacy) and $\text{PD}$ (projective determinacy) are stated the same way (...
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### The Axiom of Determinacy and the Banach-Mazur game

The Wikipedia article on the Axiom of Determinacy (AD) claims: Equivalent to the axiom of determinacy is the statement that for every subspace X of the real numbers, the Banach–Mazur game BM(X) is ...
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### A bi-modal logic related to determinacy

The short version of my question is as follows. There is a natural (I hope!) way to associate a bimodal theory to a game (two-player, perfect-information, length-$\omega$, on $\omega$); are there "...
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### Can the Turing degrees be linearly ordered?

Assuming the axiom of choice, every set can be linearly (indeed, well-) ordered. However, without choice this can fail, as witnessed most drastically by the consistency of amorphous sets. More ...
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### Undetermined copy/diagonalize games without CH

This question was the motivation behind an earlier question of mine; having thought about it some more, that question seems nontrivial and the connection is actually pretty tenuous anyways, so I've ...
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### Does determinacy in $L(\mathbb{R})$ implies projective determinacy (in $V$)?

Does $AD^{L(\mathbb{R})}$ directly implies projective determinacy? At least it certainely implies $PD$'s consistency.
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### Does ZF+AD settle the original Suslin hypothesis?

Everyone knows that the real line $\langle\mathbb{R},<\rangle$ is the unique endless complete dense linear order with a countable dense set. Suslin's hypothesis is the question whether we can ...
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### Limitations of determinacy hypotheses in ZFC

When considering (set-theoretic) games, we have three parameters we can adjust: Definability of the payoff set The set of legal moves The length of the game When working in $\textsf{ZFC}$, what are ...
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### Is there a natural inner model of AD$_\mathbb{R}$?

The question is as in the title, but let me explain a bit. Assuming a proper class of Woodin cardinals, $L(\mathbb{R})$ satisfies AD (and DC). And $L(\mathbb{R})$ is a very natural inner model. I'm ...
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### Is determinacy on an infinite Dedekind finite set consistent?

Consider $\mathrm{AD}_X$, determinacy for games where players pick moves from $X$. We know that it is consistent for $X = \omega$ or $\mathbb{R}$ (under large cardinal assumptions), but inconsistent ...
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### How much real determinacy can live in $L(\mathbb{R})$?

It's well-known that AD$_\mathbb{R}$ fails in $L(\mathbb{R})$, provably in ZFC. This is because: AD$^{L(\mathbb{R})}$ implies DC$^{L(\mathbb{R})}$. Over ZF+DC, AD + "Every set of reals has a scale" ...
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### Forgetful Determinacy and Gale-Stewart theorem

I have been studying a 1969 article by Rabin that proofs his apparently very influential Tree Theorem (that says the monadic second-order theory of 2 successors, S2S, is decidable). To give a bit of ...
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### The club filter in definable preorders

So this is an embarrassing question. Call a preorder $\mathbb{P}$ good if it has the following properties: Every countable chain in $\mathbb{P}$ has a least upper bound. $\mathbb{P}$ is directed (any ...
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### Defining cones and Turing cones

In Set Theory Jech defines a cone to be a subset of the Baire Space $\mathcal{N}$ of the form $$\operatorname{cone}(x_0)= \{x : x_0 \in L[x]\}$$ where $x_0 \in \mathcal{N}$. Jech then defines the ...
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### Getting measures (especially on $\omega_2$) from potential clubs

This is a spinoff of this earlier question of mine. Short version: What measures in $L(\mathbb{R})$ can be gotten from "potentially club" filters, under appropriate hypotheses? Long version: ...
### $\operatorname{AD}$ and the measurability of $\omega_1$
Are there proofs of the measurability of $\omega_1$ (under $\operatorname{AD}$) that do not use Turing degrees nor the $\Sigma_1^1$ boundedness lemma? I've been struggling to find an "elementary" ...
This question originates from the paper On the Axiom of Determinateness by Jan Mycielski, section 7. Given a set $X$ and an ordinal $\alpha$, the author defines a transfinite game of length $\alpha$ ...