Questions tagged [reverse-math]
The general enterprise of calibrating the strength of classical mathematical theorems in terms of the axioms, typically of set existence, needed to prove them; originated in its modern form in the 1970s by H. Friedman and S. G. Simpson (see R.A. Shore, "Reverse Mathematics: The Playground of Logic", 2010).
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Are key theorems finitistically reducible?
Simpson writes on page 378 of his Subsystems of Second Order
Arithmetic:
"For example, all of the following key theorems of infinitistic
mathematics are provable in WKL$_0$ and therefore, by ...
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Numerical choice and reverse mathematics
Consider the following fragment of numerical choice in the language of second-order arithmetic:
for any arithmetical $\varphi$, we have:
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(\forall n\in \mathbb{N})(\exists m\in \mathbb{N})(\forall X\...
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Consequences of recent claims of Ordinal Analysis of $Z_2$
Recently Toshiyasu Arai submitted "An ordinal analysis of $\Pi_{N}$-Collection" and Henry Towsner submitted "Proofs that Modify Proofs", both of which claim ordinal analysis of ...
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Does the decomposability of $\mathbb{R}$ imply analytic LLPO?
By "BISH" I mean constructive mathematics without axiom of countable choice.
By $\mathbb{R}^f$ I mean real numbers as fundamental sequences of rational numbers and by $\mathbb{R}^d$ I mean ...
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Natural examples of Borel surjections without right inverse
As discussed in this question, in general a Borel surjection $f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}$ may not have a Borel right inverse, namely a $g$ such that $f\circ g=id$, although there is always a ...
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Can one formalize the prevalence of the Big Five systems of reverse math?
Simpson's systems of second order arithmetic turn out to be five in
number; to simplify notation let's denote them A, B, C, D, E. What
seems to be an empirical observation is that most theorems in
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Completing half of Hilbert's program: Foundations that are conservative over Peano Arithmetic
The goal of the Hilbert program was to find a complete and consistent formalization of mathematics. Gödel's first incompleteness theorem establishes that completeness is impossible with first-order ...
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Reverse mathematics on lightface $\Pi^1_1$-uniformization for unary relation
It is known that the following form of $\Pi^1_1$-uniformization is equivalent to $\Pi^1_1$-Comprehension over $\mathsf{ATR}_0$ (cf. VI.2.6 of Simpson's book) :
(Kondo's uniformization theorem) For ...
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Kleene normal form theorem for r.e. relations proven in arithmetical theories
After reading the relevant chapters of Classical Recursion Theory (freely available from here), I have the following questions concerning Theorem II.1.10 (Normal form theorem) and Theorem IV.1.9 (...
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Reverse-mathematical strength of Banach-Tarski
What is the reverse mathematical strength of the Banach-Tarski paradox?
The usual proof of Banach-Tarski should carry out in $\mathrm{ZF}+\mathrm{AC}_\kappa$, where $\kappa$ is the supremum of the ...
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Proving finiteness in Reverse Mathematics
In (second-order) Reverse Mathematics, a (code for an) open set $U\subset \mathbb{R}$ is given by two sequences of rationals $(a_n)_{n \in \mathbb{N}}, (b_n)_{n \in \mathbb{N}}$. The idea is that $U$ ...
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Trading Choice for Comprehension (or Replacement)
This question is basically a request for clarification about a remark made by Sam Sanders in a comment to another question: IIUC what he's saying, there are statements that can be proved either with a ...
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Proof of global Peano existence theorem in ZF?
By global Peano existence theorem I mean the existence of a maximal interval of solution of a first order ODE $x'=f(x,t)$ with continuous $f$.
The proofs of the global Peano Theorem found in the ...
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How much of second-order arithmetic do you need for $\mathbf{\Sigma}^1_1$-determinacy to give you countable transitive models of $\mathsf{ZFC}$?
This is in some sense a follow-up to this question.
The answer there says that over $\mathsf{Z}_2$ (second-order arithmetic), (boldface) $\mathbf{\Sigma}^1_1$-determinacy is enough to entail the ...
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Strength of Borel determinacy
In this blog post by Gowers on Borel determinacy, Andres Caicedo says the following in a comment (slightly rephrased).
Let $\mathsf{ZFC^-}$ be $\mathsf{ZFC}$ without power set and $\mathsf{ZC^-}$ be $...
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What notable theorems cannot be automatically proven without choice using Shoenfield absoluteness?
There have been a couple of recent questions, here and here, regarding the role of the axiom of choice in real-analytic results with applicability to general relativity. This lead me to look at some ...
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Is "All hyperreal fields $C(\mathbb{R})/M$ are isomorphic" independent of ZFC+$\lnot$CH?
We work in ZFC.
Let $C(X)$ be the ring of continuous functions $f:X\to\mathbb{R}$, and $M$ a maximal ideal. We call $C(X)/M$ a hyperreal field if it's not isomorphic to $\mathbb{R}$.
A field $E$ is ...
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Coding fourth-order objects in second-order Reverse Mathematics
Reverse Mathematics (RM for short) generally takes place in the language of second-order arithmetic. Thus, higher-order objects need to be "coded" or "represented" indirectly. ...
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How much determinacy do you need for second order arithmetic to be as strong as ZFC?
From Wikipedia (I couldn't find the original source):
$\text{ZFC} + \{\text{there are $n$ Woodin cardinals: $n$ is a natural number}\}$ is conservative over $\text{Z}_2$ with projective determinacy.
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Entailment in one-point extensions of standard-enough models
This is one of two questions about the power of "one-point extensions" in reverse mathematics. This one focuses on what separations can be achieved as one-point extensions of as-closed-as-...
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How strong is exponentiation with only open induction? (Or: "how low can we go?")
Do the strongest theories currently known to be unconstrained by Tennenbaum's theorem ($IOpen$ and some modest extensions) remain so when augmented with a definition of exponentiation and axiom $\...
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Logical strength of the pigeon-hole principle for measure spaces
In his book on measure theory, Tao discuss the pigeon-hole principle for measure spaces, which expresses that the union of measure zero sets is again measure zero.
I am interested in the logical ...
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Set-theoretical reverse mathematics of the reals
While reading through a nice old question/answer about the behavior of measures on the reals in $ZFC$ that popped back up today, I began to wonder how much of $ZFC$ is required for various things we ...
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What is the strongest form of the Axiom of Choice available in $\mathsf{Z}_{2}$?
$\mathsf{Z}_{2}$ denotes second-order arithmetic. Some forms of AC are expressible in $\mathsf{Z}_{2}$; for example the $\mathsf{\Sigma}_{1}^{1}$ axiom of choice is part of the theory $\mathsf{ATR}_{0}...
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What is the meaning and proof of Harvey Friedman’s ultrafinite incompleteness sentence?
On page 7 of his paper “Adventures in Incompleteness”, Harvey Friedman states the following:
IN ANY LONG ENOUGH SEQUENCE $x_1,...,x_n$ FROM $\{1,2,3\}$, SOME $(x_i,...,x_{2i})$ IS A SUBSEQUENCE OF ...
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Is the IVT internally true in Johnstone's topological topos?
By IVT, I mean that for any continuous function $f:[0,1]\to\mathbb R$ for which $f(0)\leq 0 \leq f(1)$, there is a $t \in [0,1]$ for which $f(t)=0$. I don't mean any "constructive" ...
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Does $\text{ACA}_0$ + True Arithmetic prove the well-foundedness of every recursive ordinal?
As discussed in Noah Schweber's answer to What is the proof-theoretic ordinal of true arithmetic?, it is somewhat ambiguous what “the proof-theoretic ordinal of True Arithmetic” might mean. In one ...
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Is the Intermediate Value Theorem strictly stronger than LLPO?
(The context is Intuitionistic ZF set theory, or HoTT, or the internal logic of a topos with a Natural Number Object. The real numbers here mean the Dedekind reals.)
By LLPO, I mean the statement that ...
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What is the strength of “if $c≥0$ then $[0,c] = c·[0,1]$” in constructive math (w.r.t., LPO, WLPO, LLPO, etc.)?
Context: This question is about constructive mathematics, such as in the internal logic of a topos with natural numbers object, or in IZF. (I wish to avoid the axiom of countable choice if possible, ...
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When more is less in logic
I am looking for examples of theorems where adding a 'trivial' extra condition makes the theorem provable in weaker systems. By 'trivial' I mean that the extra condition is trivial in strong enough ...
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Reverse mathematics of Banach-Mazur games
Given $\mathcal{A}\subseteq\omega^\omega$, the Banach-Mazur game with payoff set $\mathcal{A}$ consists of players $1$ and $2$ alternately playing nonempty finite strings of naturals with player $1$ ...
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Enumerating unions of arithmetical sets
In Simpsons's excellent Subsystems of Second-order Arithmetic, we find V.4.10 which tells us the following:
The following is provable in ATR$_0$. Let $(A_n)_{n\in \mathbb{N}}$ be a sequence of ...
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"At most one" versus "at most finitely many"
As shown in Simpson's excellent Subsystems of Second Order Arithmetic, the ‘big five’ system ATR$_0$ from second-order reverse mathematics is equivalent to the following principle:
For arithmetical $\...
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Equivalences between statements of (seemingly) different order
In Steve Simpson's excellent monograph SOSOA, we find Theorem X.4.4 which contains an equivalence (over RCA$_0^*$) between the following statements:
The induction axiom for $\Sigma_1^0$-formulas (...
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Doing reverse mathematics by regarding modal logic as weak first-order logic
Reverse mathematics seeks to find subsystems of second-order logic that are equivalent to certain mathematics theorems, say over $\mathsf{RCA}_0$.
Modal logic can be regarded as a weak version of ...
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Is Monsky's theorem provable in $\mathsf{RCA}_0$?
Monsky's theorem states that it is not possible to dissect a square into an odd number of triangles of equal area. Monsky's proof attracted attention in part because it unexpectedly made use of the ...
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How does one prove the consistency of $\mathrm{PA}$ in $\mathrm{Z_2}$?
It is "well-known" (e.g. stated here without proof and sketched here) that $\mathrm{Z_2}$ proves $\mathrm{Con(PA)}$ using the "usual" model-theoretic proof, that is one can build a ...
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What is the weakest subsystem of Second-order Arithmetic (or its first-order part) that proves Szemerédi's Regularity Lemma?
The question is in the title. Szemerédi's Regularity Lemma is the following (according to the Wikipedia entry):
For every $\epsilon \gt 0$ and positive integer $m$ there exists an integer $M$ such ...
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Weaker uniformisation theorems
An interesting topic in Reverse Mathematics is uniformisation theorems (see VI.2 and VII.6 in Simpson's SOSOA). Now, these theorems all express the following: for a suitable formula $\varphi$, there ...
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Comprehension axiom that helps in the opposite direction
Usually, having more comprehension axiom means the more you can prove. We wonder if the converse can be the case.
Is there a natural problem $\mathsf{P}$ so that $\mathsf{P}+\neg(\Gamma-\mathsf{...
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Two questions regarding the reverse mathematics of Siegel's lemma
In a short proof of the Roth theorem regarding the rational approximation of algebraic reals I found online (which made use of Siegel's Lemma), it was stated that "Siegel's lemma is a corollary ...
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Reverse Mathematics strength of fixed radius covering theorem
I am curious about the reverse math status of the below statement. Note that we work in second-order RM, i.e. 'closed set' is interpreted as in Simpson's excellent SOSOA.
For any closed $E\subset [0,...
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Different definitions of 'countable set'
There are a number of different definitions of 'countable set', all equivalent given a strong enough (classical) system. The obvious ones (injection to $\mathbb{N}$, bijection to $\mathbb{N}$, ...
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Does ACA prove categoricity of the reals?
$\def\f#1{\text{#1}}$Does $\f{ACA}$ prove that any two internally complete ordered fields are isomorphic?
Here internal completeness is expressed roughly as "every sequence of reals with an upper ...
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Coding third-order objects via second-order ones
As is well-known, the language of second-order arithmetic only has variables for natural numbers and sets of natural numbers. Higher-order objects, like functions on $\mathbb{R}$, have to be ...
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Relationship between provable in $RCA_0$ and effectively true
Question: What is the relationship between provability in $RCA_0$ and effectively true?
In other words: Given a problem, if a statement asserting the existence of a solution of the problem is provable ...
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Is anything known about $\Delta_n$ bounding?
For a class $\Gamma \in \{ \Sigma_n, \Pi_n, \Delta_n \}$ in the arithmetical hierarchy, we can consider the induction, bounding, and least number principles for $\Gamma$:
$\mathsf{I}\Gamma$ is $\big[ ...
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Can $\mathsf{RCA}_0$ prove that every nonempty c.e. set $A \subseteq \mathbb{N}$ has a least element?
In other words, can $\mathsf{RCA}_0$ prove that for every function $f\colon \mathbb{N} \to \mathbb{N}$, there is $b \in \mathbb{N}$ such that
$$ \exists k \in \mathbb{N},\ f(k) = b\quad \land\quad \...
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Why doesn't $\mathsf{B}\Sigma_2$ hold in $\mathsf{RCA}_0$?
For a formula $\varphi(i,u)$ of arithmetic, the bounding principle for $\varphi$ is the statement
$$\forall m \, \Big( \big( \forall i<m\ \exists u\ \varphi(i,u) \big) \to \big( \exists v\ \forall ...
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Independence of $\Pi^1_1$-induction from ATR$_0$
Is it known that $\Pi^1_1$-induction is independent of ATR$_0$? Simpson's book shows this for $\Pi^1_1$ transfinite induction ($\Pi^1_1$-TI), but I'm only interested in inducting on $\omega$.
I can ...