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Logarithm of a $p$-group in $\mathrm{GL}_n(p)$

$\def\GL{\operatorname{GL}}\def\ZZ{\mathbb{Z}}\def\FF{\mathbb{F}}\def\Id{\mathrm{Id}}\def\fu{\mathfrak{u}}$Let $p$ be prime, let $n<p$, let $U_n(\FF_p)$ be the group of $n \times n$ upper ...
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Any Sylow pro-$p$ subgroup of a topologically finitely generated profinite group is also topologically finitely generated?

It's proved in Oltikar and Ribes - On prosupersolvable groups that any Sylow pro-$p$ subgroup of a topologically finitely generated prosupersolvable group is also topologically finitely generated. It ...
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Center of factors of a finite $p$-group, obtained from a minimal normal subgroup

throughout a research problem about finite $p$-groups, I have a challenge as follows, Let $G$ be a finite non-abelian $p$-group, where $p$ is odd and $Z(G)$ is non-cyclic. ($Z(G)$ denotes the center ...
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Bilinear forms on abelian $p$-groups: Images of weak metabolizers in the Frattini quotient

Suppose $G$ is a finite abelian $p$-group for $p$ an odd prime and $b : G \times G \to \mathbf{Q}/\mathbf{Z}$ is a non-degenerate symmetric bilinear form. A subgroup $H \leq G$ is a weak metabolizer ...
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Structure of a single automorphism of a finite abelian p-group

A finite abelian $p$-group $H$ is homogenous when it is the direct sum of cyclic groups of the same order $p^r$, i.e. $H \cong \big(\mathbb{Z}/p^{r}\mathbb{Z}\big)^{e}$. Every finite abelian $p$-group ...
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Maximal subgroups of finite abelian $2$-groups

Suppose $G$ is a finite abelian $2$-group, and $S$ is a subset of $G$, $\langle S\rangle=G$,$S^{-1}=S$,$e\notin S$. How to determine whether there exists a maximal subgroup $M$ of $G$, such that $S$ ...
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Groups $P$ of order $p^5$ with $\Omega_1(P)=P$

I have been working with (particular) groups $P$ of order $p^5$. In fact, the ones that interest me the most are those that satisfy $$\langle x\in P\mid x^p=1\rangle=:\Omega_1(P)=P.$$ After a search ...
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Finite $p$-groups of maximal class whose generators have order $p$

Let $G$ be a finite $p$-group of maximal nilpotency class that is not cyclic of order $p^2$. Then $G$ is $2$-generated, say $G=\langle a,b\rangle$. Is there a classification in the case when $a^p=b^p=...
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Prove that every group $G$ with $p^n$ ($n\ge4$) elements and center with $p$ elements has an abelian subgroup of order $p^3$ [closed]

Prove that every group $G$ with $p^n$ ($n\ge4$) elements and center with $p$ elements has an abelian subgroup of order $p^3$ I'm new in this forum so I hope I haven't made any mistake. I have to ...
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Admissibility of Ulm's invariants

Let $G$ be a reduced abelian $p$-group. We set $G_0=G$. Let $\alpha$ be an ordinal. Inductively, if $\alpha=\beta+1$ is a successor ordinal, we define $$G_{\alpha}=pG_{\beta}.$$ If $\alpha$ is a limit ...
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Maximal abelian subgroups of an extraspecial group of order $2^{2m+1}$

I've found a proof of the structure of maximal abelian normal subgroups of an extraspecial group of order $2^{2m+1}$ in the book "Endlichen Gruppen I" by B. Huppert but there is a part of ...
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Invariants of primary groups

In Kaplansky's book "Infinite Abelian Groups", an abelian group $G$ is called primary if every element has order power of $p$ for some fixed prime number $p$. It is well-known that every ...
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The relation between two characteristic subgroups in finite p-group

Suppose $G$ is a finite $p$-group. Let \begin{align*} \mho_{1}(G)=\langle a^p\mid a\in G\rangle,\quad\Omega_{1}(G)=\langle a\in G\mid a^p=1\rangle. \end{align*} There are examples such that $|G|\leq |\...
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Is this class of $p$-groups large?

Call a $p$-group $G$ good if for each subgroups $H, H_1, H_2\subseteq G$ for which $H_1\subseteq H$, $H_2\subseteq H$, $|H_1| = |H_2| = |H|/p$, $H_1\not= H_2$, $H'\not=\{e\}$ holds we have that there ...
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Is there a subgroup of a non-abelian $p$-group $G$ with a large nilpotency class?

Let $G$ be a non-abelian $p$-group ($p\ne2$). Does there exist a group $H\subset G$ such that both 1, 2 are satisfied? $|H| = |G|/p$. $c(H)\geq c(G) - 1$.
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Do these $p$-groups have the same nilpotency class?

Let $G$ be a $p$-group, $\{e\}\not= H\subseteq G$ be a subgroup of $G$ such that $G' = H'$. Is it true that $c(G) = c(H)$, where $c(\cdot)$ denotes the nilpotency class of a group?
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Name of the power of the exponent of a $p$-group

Is there a name for the power of the exponent of a $p$-group? So, if $\mathrm{exp}(G):=\max\lbrace o(g)|g\in G\rbrace=p^k$ for some $k\in\mathbb{N}$, is there a name for the $k$? Additionally, is ...
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Existence of maximal topologically characteristic subgroup of infinite index of pro-$p$ groups

Let $G$ be a topologically finitely generated infinite pro-$p$ group. Suppose that $G$ is not just-infinite. Does the group $G$ always have a maximal topologically characteristic subgroup of infinite ...
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Finite 2-groups with $(ab)^{2}=(ba)^{2}$

There exist nonabelian finite 2-groups $G$ with the property $(A2)$ : for every $a,b\in G$, $(ab)^{2}=(ba)^{2}$. An example of a such group is given by the quaternion group $Q_{8}$ of order 8. Is ...
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Is the largest normal abelian subgroup of a finite 2-group $P$ of order at least the square root of the order of $P$?

Let $G$ be a group of order $2^n$. Does $G$ have a normal abelian subgroup of order at least $2^{n/2}$? (This is true, via computations in GAP, for $n \le 8$. The question is similar to one posed ...
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Differences between $p$-groups and $q$-groups

First, let me include the same disclaimer that goes in the first line of any article I write: all groups considered herein are finite. Academically, I work with connecting the arithmetic structure of ...
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The rank of indecomposable finite abelian 2-group

$\DeclareMathOperator\rank{rank}$Let $P$ be a finite $p$-group. The rank of $P$ is $\log_{p}|P/\Phi(P)|$ where $\Phi(P)$ is the Frattini subgroup of $P$, we write $\rank(P)=\log_{p}|P/\Phi(P)|$. Let a ...
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Structures of subgroups of a finite abelian p-group

$\newcommand\la{\langle}\newcommand\ra{\rangle}$Let $G=\mathbb{Z}/p^{i_1}\times\cdots\times\mathbb{Z}/p^{i_r}$ with $i_1\leq\ldots\leq i_r$ be a finite abelian $p$-group. Then there can be many ...
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Local vs global nilpotence class (Lazard correspondence)

The Lazard Correspondence is often phrased (for simplicity) for $p$-groups of nilpotence class $c < p$, but it works more generally whenever every 3-generated subgroup has nilpotence class $< p$,...
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Number of subgroups of a $p$-group of index $p^k$

Let $p$ be a prime, let $n$ and $k$ be positive integers and let $G$ be a group of order $p^n$. Further, let $a_{p^k}$ denote the number of subgroups of $G$ of index $p^k$. If $a_{p^k}$ is greater ...
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Groups with a unique lonely element

Does there exist a finite group $G$ of order greater than two containing a unique element $g$ such that $$ g\notin\langle x\rangle \hbox{ for all $x\in G\setminus\{g\}$ ?} $$ Or we have another ...
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On 2-groups of exponent 4 and class 2

Suppose A is a 2-group with the following properties: $\lvert A \rvert = t^3$ with $t$ some even power of $2$; $A$ and $Z(A)$ (the center of $A$) are of exponent $4$; $\lvert Z(A) \rvert = t$ and $[A,...
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How many elements of each order are there in this $p$-group? [closed]

Let $G$ be a countable Abelian $p$-group which equals a direct sum of at most countably many finite cyclic groups and at most countably many copies of the Prüfer $p$-group, where these finite cyclic ...
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Constructing a group of order $2187=3^7$

I am trying to look for the $2$-generated groups of order $3^7$ and class $4$ all whose upper central series quotients are elementary abelian of order 9 except the center which has order $3$. A small ...
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Infinite pro-$p$ group of finite solvable length and finite coclass

I was reading about infinite pro-$p$ groups of finite coclass from the book "The Structure of Groups of Prime Power Order" by Leedham-Green and McKay. I asked this question in math....
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Units in group rings

Let $F$ be any field with $p$ elements and $G$ be any finite $p$-group, combining together they form a group ring $FG$. And $V(FG)$ denotes group of units of coefficient-sum equal to 1 in $FG$. We ...
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Structure/description of a finitely presented group

I am unable to see the structure of the following finitely presented group. $$\langle a,b,c,d : [a,b]=c=a^p,\ [c,b]=c^p=d^p,\ b^{p^2}=c^{p^2}=1 \rangle$$ I have tried in GAP, but it is not showing any ...
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On isoclinism classes of finite p-groups

With reference to James, Rodney, The groups of order (p^6) ((p) an odd prime)., Math. Comput. 34, 613-637 (1980). ZBL0428.20013., My question is can we get isoclinism class $\phi_2$ for a finite p-...
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On classifying groups of order $p^5$

Can someone suggest me some source where the author has classified all non-isomorphic groups of order $p^5$ ? I need complete classification (not upto isoclinism), and also in finitely presented form ....
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Presentations of groups of order $p^4$

In the (xi) group of the classification of groups of order $p^4$ given by W.Burnside in his book," Theory of Groups Of Finite Order". The group ($\mathbb{Z_{p^{2}}}\rtimes \mathbb{Z_{p^{}}}) ...
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Direct proof (or reference) that a given $p$-group is extra-special

Writing a paper on algebraic surfaces, I was led to consider the finite group $\mathsf{H}(A)$ whose presentation is the following. I start with an anti-symmetric matrix $A=(a_{ij})$ of order $2n$ ...
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When is the following preorder on the set of central elements of order 2 a total preorder?

Let $G$ be a finite 2-group. Denote by $S$ the set of central elements of $G$ of order exactly $2$. The relation $a\leq b$ iff there is an endomorphism of $G$ sending $b$ to $a$ defines a preorder on $...
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Number of conjugacy classes of unit groups of modular group algebras

Let $n$ be a natural number, $p$ a prime number, $G$ a finite $p$-group and $K$ a finite field with $p^n$ elements. We focus on the group $1+J(KG)$, where $J(KG)$ is the Jacobson radical of $KG$, ...
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Normal subgroups of $p$-groups

I was reading Professor Yukov Berkovich' paper "On Subgroups of Finite $p$-groups" when I stumled upon the following theorem: Let $G$ be a nonabelian $p$-group with cyclic Frattini subgroup, $|\Phi(...
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$p$-groups with isomorphic subgroup lattices

Given two non-abelian finite p-groups $P_1$ and $P_2$ of the same order that are not isomorphic. Can $P_1$ and $P_2$ have isomorphic subgroup lattices? (I'm not experienced with group theory, ...
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Computing the class-preserving automorphism group of finite $p$-groups

Let $G$ be a finite non-abelian $p$-group, where $p$ is a prime. An automorphism $\alpha$ of $G$ is called a class-preserving if for each $x\in G$, there exists an element $g_x\in G$ such that $\alpha(...
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Do the class vector and character vector of a $p$-group determine each other?

To a finite $p$-group, we can associate two vectors $(v_0,v_1,\dotsc)$: The class vector - $v_i$ is the number of conjugacy classes of order $p^i$. The character vector - $v_i$ is the number of ...
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How can I get my hands on McKay's "Finite p-groups" lecture notes?

How can we find Susan McKay's "Finite $p$-groups" lecture notes? The notes I'm talking about are these. I emailed Peter Cameron, but he has since moved to a different university, and has no ...
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Defect of subnormality in unit groups of modular group algebras

Let $p$ be a prime number, $G$ a finite p-Group and $K$ a finite field with $char(K)=p$. It is well-known that the group $1+rad(KG)$ is a p-group containing $G$. $G$ is normal in $1+rad(KG)$ if and ...
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about a strange property of p-groups of maximal class

I am trying to look for a finite $p$-group of maximal class of order at least $p^{2p+1}$ exponent at least $p^3$ which possibly has the following property : If s is an element in $G-G_1$ ($G_1$ is ...
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Certain $p$-group with cyclic center

Let $G$ be a finite $p$-group of derived length $d$, which is not a Dedekind group. (i.e., possesses at least one non-normal subgroup). Let $G^{(d-1)}$ be the unique normal subgroup of $G$ of order $...
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Central extensions of Suzuki 2-groups

Recall the definition of the finite Suzuki 2-groups: These are finite non-abelian 2-groups that contain more than one involution such that a solvable group of automorphisms permutes the involutions ...
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a question about finite 2-group

Please help me about the following question: Suppose $G$ is a finite 2-group and $x\in Z(M)\setminus Z(G)$ for some maximal subgroup $M$ of $G$ such that $x^2\in Z(G)$, is it true $x\in Z_2(G)$? ...
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Conjugacy classes of non-normal subgroups of a finite $p$-group

Let $G$ be a finite $p$-group of derived length $d$ and nilpotency class $c$. Suppose that $G$ is not a Dedekind group (i.e., possesses at least one non-normal subgroup). Suppose that $G^{(d-1)}$ has ...
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The nilpotency class and the derived length of a $p$-group

Let $G$ be a finite $p$-group of nilpotency class $c$ and of derived length $d$. As is well known, we have $d\leq \lfloor\log_2 c\rfloor+1$, (https://groupprops.subwiki.org/wiki/...
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