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Let us consider the following operation on positive integers: $$n=\prod_{i=1}^{k}p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad f(n):= \prod_{i=1}^{k}\alpha_ip_i^{\alpha_i-1}$$ (Is it true that if we apply this operation to any integer multilpe times, it will eventually get into a finite cycle?) Is there a constant $K$ such that any integer will fall into a cycle after $K$ steps?

Edit4: We managed to settle affirmatively the question of Mark Sapir, whether a cycle of arbitrary length exists: http://www.math.bme.hu/~kovacsi/Pub/arithmetic_derivation_v04.pdf

Edit3: I proposed two questions (in retrospect, it was a minor mistake), one of them was answered. To appreciate this, i accept Mark Sapir's answer, and alter the original text by putting the unanswered stuff into parentheses. Making the answered one the main question.

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

I think that the answer to the first question is yes, but to the second no. We tested the first $10000$ integers and every integer fell into a cycle after at most $6$ steps.

Edit: @MarkSapir proved that the answer to the second question is no. His proof raises the (third) question: How long can such a cycle be?

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

Edit3: I proposed two questions (in retrospect, it was a minor mistake), one of them was answered. To appreciate this, i accept Mark Sapir's answer, and alter the original text by putting the unanswered stuff into parentheses. Making the answered one the main question.

Let us consider the following operation on positive integers: $$n=\prod_{i=1}^{k}p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad f(n):= \prod_{i=1}^{k}\alpha_ip_i^{\alpha_i-1}$$ (Is it true that if we apply this operation to any integer multilpe times, it will eventually get into a finite cycle?) Is there a constant $K$ such that any integer will fall into a cycle after $K$ steps?

I think that the answer to the first question is yes, but to the second no. We tested the first $10000$ integers and every integer fell into a cycle after at most $6$ steps.

Edit: @MarkSapir proved that the answer to the second question is no. His proof raises the (third) question: How long can such a cycle be?

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

Edit3: I proposed two questions (in retrospect, it was a minor mistake), one of them was answered. To appreciate this, i accept Mark Sapir's answer, and alter the original text by putting the unanswered stuff into parentheses. Making the answered one the main question.

Let us consider the following operation on positive integers: $$n=\prod_{i=1}^{k}p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad f(n):= \prod_{i=1}^{k}\alpha_ip_i^{\alpha_i-1}$$ (Is it true that if we apply this operation to any integer multilpe times, it will eventually get into a finite cycle?) Is there a constant $K$ such that any integer will fall into a cycle after $K$ steps?

Edit4: We managed to settle affirmatively the question of Mark Sapir, whether a cycle of arbitrary length exists: http://www.math.bme.hu/~kovacsi/Pub/arithmetic_derivation_v04.pdf

Edit3: I proposed two questions (in retrospect, it was a minor mistake), one of them was answered. To appreciate this, i accept Mark Sapir's answer, and alter the original text by putting the unanswered stuff into parentheses. Making the answered one the main question.

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

I think that the answer to the first question is yes, but to the second no. We tested the first $10000$ integers and every integer fell into a cycle after at most $6$ steps.

Edit: @MarkSapir proved that the answer to the second question is no. His proof raises the (third) question: How long can such a cycle be?

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Let us consider the following operation on positive integers: $$n=\prod_{i=1}^{k}p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad f(n):= \prod_{i=1}^{k}\alpha_ip_i^{\alpha_i-1}$$ Is(Is it true that if we apply this operation to any integer multilpe times, it will eventually get into a finite cycle?) Is there a constant $K$ such that any integer will fall into a cycle after $K$ steps?

I think that the answer to the first question is yes, but to the second no. We tested the first $10000$ integers and every integer fell into a cycle after at most $6$ steps.

Edit: @MarkSapir proved that the answer to the second question is no. His proof raises the (third) question: How long can such a cycle be?

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

Edit3: I proposed two questions (in retrospect, it was a minor mistake), one of them was answered. To appreciate this, i accept Mark Sapir's answer, and alter the original text by putting the unanswered stuff into parentheses. Making the answered one the main question.

Let us consider the following operation on positive integers: $$n=\prod_{i=1}^{k}p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad f(n):= \prod_{i=1}^{k}\alpha_ip_i^{\alpha_i-1}$$ Is it true that if we apply this operation to any integer multilpe times, it will eventually get into a finite cycle? Is there a constant $K$ such that any integer will fall into a cycle after $K$ steps?

I think that the answer to the first question is yes, but to the second no. We tested the first $10000$ integers and every integer fell into a cycle after at most $6$ steps.

Edit: @MarkSapir proved that the answer to the second question is no. His proof raises the (third) question: How long can such a cycle be?

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

Let us consider the following operation on positive integers: $$n=\prod_{i=1}^{k}p_i^{\alpha_i} \qquad f(n):= \prod_{i=1}^{k}\alpha_ip_i^{\alpha_i-1}$$ (Is it true that if we apply this operation to any integer multilpe times, it will eventually get into a finite cycle?) Is there a constant $K$ such that any integer will fall into a cycle after $K$ steps?

I think that the answer to the first question is yes, but to the second no. We tested the first $10000$ integers and every integer fell into a cycle after at most $6$ steps.

Edit: @MarkSapir proved that the answer to the second question is no. His proof raises the (third) question: How long can such a cycle be?

Edit2: István Kovács pointed out that there is a nice formula for $f(n)$ using the 'number of divisors' function: $$ f(n):= d \left( \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } \right) \frac{n}{ \prod_{i=1}^{n}p_i } $$ from which it fillows that for any $\varepsilon >0 , \quad f(n)=o(n^{1+\varepsilon})$.

Edit3: I proposed two questions (in retrospect, it was a minor mistake), one of them was answered. To appreciate this, i accept Mark Sapir's answer, and alter the original text by putting the unanswered stuff into parentheses. Making the answered one the main question.

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