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Forcing is a method first used to prove the continuum hypothesis is independent of the classical axioms of set theory
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How hard is it to destroy a diamond? (with a real)
If we start with $V\models\lozenge$, it is not hard to force the failure of diamond. You can blow up the continuum, or destroy all the Suslin trees. You can blow up the continuum of $\aleph_1$, and th …
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When will the real numbers be Borel?
Clearly you cannot add elements to sets with forcing. When does $X$ remain Borel? Or just generally, when does $\Bbb R$ itself stay Borel in its generic extension? …
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A better way to explain forcing?
To someone who needs to use forcing as a blackbox, understanding the forcing relation is probably slightly more important, but the specific construction of $\Bbb P$-names is perhaps not as important. … Without once mentioning formulas and the language of forcing, or even the forcing relation, in technical terms.
Yes, this is still lacking, and yes this is really just aimed at the casual reader. …
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What examples of existence forcing proofs are there?
Forcing proofs tend to be fairly constructive, in the sense that if I claim that there is a forcing that does something, I usually prove this by constructing that forcing. … There are only a handful of exceptions, where we prove that a forcing notion that does the trick exists, but we use abstract argument instead of specifying the forcing. …
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If all reals are generic, is the set of reals generic?
Let $W\subseteq V$ be two models of $\sf ZFC$ with the same ordinals. Is the following situation consistent:
For every $x\in\Bbb R^V$ there is some $P_x\in W$ such that for some $G\subseteq P_x$ whi …
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Forcing over models without the axiom of choice
In the vast majority of papers forcing is always developed over ZFC. … I am not looking for ways to develop forcing extensions of ZF without the axiom of choice; rather I am looking for theorems such as c.c.c forcing does not collapse cardinals and similar theorems extended …
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Sheaf-theoretic approach to forcing
The usual presentation of forcing uses models, because the uses of forcing are to prove consistency results. … The approach via models also clarifies how forcing works, what are the names, and what the forcing relation truly means. …
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Is there a more modern account of the main results of "Adding Dependent Choice" by D. Pincus?
If you look closely, you will see that this is not just presented in the "old method of forcing", but it is also from an era where the distinction between generic and symmetric extension wasn't fully explained … Many of the complicated choice-related constructions of the time (Morris' model, Pincus' work, Sageev's work, and others) were written before a very clear understanding of forcing, iterations, and symmetric …
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Proper topological spaces
But equivalently, we can say that the forcing defined with the non-empty open sets is a ccc forcing. … This lends itself to many other definitions that can be translated from forcing terms to topological spaces. …
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Is Prikry forcing minimal?
We can define the Prikry forcing (the most simple one) as the poset: $$\Bbb P=\left\{(p,A)\mid p\in[\kappa]^{<\omega}, A\in\mathcal U, \max p<\min A\right\}.$$
We also define the order, $(q,B)$ is stronger … have some $x\in[\kappa]^\omega$ such that for some $\cal U$ in $M$ which is a normal measure on $\kappa$, $x\subseteq^*A$ for all $A\in\cal U$, then $x=x_G$ for some generic filter $G$ over the Prikry forcing …
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Does proper forcing preserve properness under PFA?
In $\sf ZFC$, any forcing of the form $\operatorname{Add}(\kappa,1)$, for any $\kappa$, will destroy the properness of some forcing.
Indeed, much more of that is true.
Theorem. …
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What is the "Prikry–Silver collapse" when CH fails?
Interestingly, assuming CH this is the same as the standard collapsing forcing. … Is this so-called "Prikry–Silver collapse" provably equivalent to the standard collapsing forcing? …
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Adding a real with infinite conditions
Consider the forcing $\Bbb P$ whose conditions are partial functions $p\colon\omega\to2$ with $\operatorname{dom}(p)$ a co-infinite subset of $\omega$, ordered by reverse inclusion. …
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What ccc forcings add a Suslin tree?
In a comment to Miha's question in Forcing PFA with ccc forcing, I suggested that if such situation is even possible, it might be achieved by screwing with PFA by some ccc forcing (e.g. adding a Cohen … real), and then "fixing all the problems" via a ccc forcing. …
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Which is the more popular approach to forcing in the literature?
There are two types of "working with forcing":
We can develop the theory of forcing, e.g. iterations, where working with canonical forcing notions is somewhat preferable, so dealing with complete Boolean … Finally, a word about the foundations of forcing. When one learns about forcing, it is often confusing. …