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Consider a compact metric group $G$ [A compact topological group $G$ where the topology is generated by an invariant metric]. I am particularly interested in the case where $G$ is the $n$-dimensional projective unitary group $\mathrm{PU}(n)$, but the following is phrased more generally.

Consider the following "Fibonacci" map $$F:G\times G\to G\times G\\ \quad\quad(a,b)\mapsto (b,ba).$$ [The name comes from the fact that, when iterated, $F$ produces the Fibonacci words on $G$]

It is easy to see that $F$ is continous and the Haar measure on $G\times G$ stays invariant under the application of $F$. The latter follows from Fubini's theorem and the invariance of the Haar measure.

We say that $(a_0,b_0)\in G\times G$ is $F$-recurrent if there exists a subsequence of $(F^n(a_0,b_0))_{n\in \mathbb{N}}$ that converges to $(a_0,b_0)$. Let $R\subseteq G\times G$ be the set of all $F$-recurrent points. By the Poincaré recurrence theorem, the set $N= G\times G\setminus R$ has zero Haar measure.

I am trying to understand the form of the (possible?) non-$F$-recurrent points $(a_0,b_0)\in N$, or, even better, I would like to prove that $N=\emptyset$, which I suspect is the case. Is there a stronger version of the Poincaré recurrence theorem that would allow me to conclude that $N=\emptyset$ for this map?

I have looked around for general references that study this specific map but have not found much. This is a bit far from my usual research area so I might be lacking some keywords. Ideas are welcome.

Update: As commented, $N\neq \emptyset$. Is there a simple condition on $(a,b)\in G\times G$ that guarantees $(a,b)\in R$?

For example, is the following true?

  • If the subgroup generated by $\{a,b\}$ is dense in $G$, then $(a,b)\in R$?
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    $\begingroup$ Actually $N=N_G$ is nonempty whenever $G$ is a positive-dimensional compact Lie group. Indeed, for $G$ the circle $\mathbf{R}/\mathbf{Z}$, $F$ is given by the matrix $\begin{pmatrix}0 & 1\\ 1 & 1\end{pmatrix}$, which has the eigenvalue $s=-(\sqrt{5}-1)/2$. If $(a,b)\neq (0,0)$ is any pair on the corresponding eigenline (which is dense in the torus), then $F^n(a,b)$ converges exponentially to $(0,0)$ so $(a,b)$ is not recurrent. For $G$ arbitrary, just choose a circle $C\subset G$ and find such a pair in $C\times C$. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
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    $\begingroup$ Eventually, one deduces that $N_G$ is empty iff $G$ is profinite. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Sep 25, 2022 at 13:19
  • $\begingroup$ Oh awesome! Do you know if this construction describes all non-recurrent points? In your construction $a$ and $b$ commute $ab=ba$. Is this true for any $(a,b)\in N$? I am trying to find a simple condition on $(a,b)$ that would guarantee recurrence. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 25, 2022 at 18:32
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    $\begingroup$ In general $(a,b)$ might fail to commute, assuming that your group contains the direct product of a circle and a non-abelian group (this is the case in $\mathrm{PSU}(n)$ for $n\ge 3$). Just take $(a,b)$ inside this direct product, whose component in the circle contracted as above, and whose component in the non-abelian group is any noncommuting pair. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Sep 25, 2022 at 22:02
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    $\begingroup$ @VilleSalo in the circle example, actually every nonzero $a$ in the contracting eigenline already generates a dense subset of the circle (OP asks about $\{a,b\}$ generating topologically $G$, not $G^2$). And I guess OP asks this question about $\mathrm{PSU}(n)$. I'd be curious about the case of $\mathrm{PSU}(2)=\mathrm{SO}(3)$. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Sep 26, 2022 at 10:26

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Here's a very partial answer. Let $R_G\subset G^2$ be the set of recurrent points of $F$.

Then for a compact group $G$, we have $R_G=G^2$ if and only if $G$ is profinite.

Proof. First, for $G$ the circle group $\mathbf{R}/\mathbf{Z}$, $R_G\neq G$. Indeed the map $F$ is then given on the 2-torus $(\mathbf{R}/\mathbf{Z})^2$ by the matrix $\begin{pmatrix}0&1\\1&1\end{pmatrix}$, which has the eigenvalue $s=-(\sqrt{5}-1)/2$. If $(a,b)\neq (0,0)$ is any pair in the corresponding eigenline (which is dense in the torus), then $F^n(a,b)$ converges to (0,0), so $(a,b)$ is not recurrent.

In general, observe that the condition $R_G=G^2$ passes to both closed subgroups and to quotients. If $G$ is a compact non-profinite group, then by Peter-Weyl it has a quotient that is a positive-dimensional compact Lie group, which in turn has a closed subgroup isomorphic to the circle group.

Conversely, suppose that $G$ is profinite. For $(a,b)\in G$, let $N$ be a normal open subgroup. Then $F$ induces a permutation of $(G/N)^2$. So for some $n_0$, $F^{n_0}$ induces the identity on $(G/N)^2$. Hence for every $n$, $F^{nn_0}(a,b)\in (a,b)N^2$. Hence $(a,b)$ is recurrent. (Note that this even shows that $F^n$ converges uniformly to the identity when $n$ tends to 0 in the profinite completion of $\mathbf{Z}$. Concretely, for instance, this shows that $F^{n!}$ converges uniformly to the identity.

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  • $\begingroup$ I don't think this map is isometric. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 25, 2022 at 10:24
  • $\begingroup$ @NeilStrickland thanks! It's definitely not isometric on the torus, i.e. when $G$ is the circle (and the cyclic group it generates is not uniformly bilipschitz). $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Sep 25, 2022 at 11:30
  • $\begingroup$ I rewrote the answer so as to remove the wrong statement, and to incorporate comments. The "isometric" argument indeed works, but only for profinite groups. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Sep 26, 2022 at 7:32

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