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Let $X_1,\ldots,X_n$ be independent with $\mathbf{E}[X_i] = 0$ and $\mathbf{E}[|X_i|^t] < \infty$ for some $t \ge 2$. Write $X = \sum_{i=1}^n X_i$. Then we have the family of "Rosenthal-type inequalities":

$$ \mathbf{E}[|X|^t] \le C_1(t)\cdot \left(\sum_{i=1}^n \mathbf{E}[|X_i|^t]\right) + C_2(t)\cdot \left(\sum_{i=1}^n \mathbf{E}[X_i^2]\right)^{t/2} .$$

Henceforth, $c>0$ is some absolute constant. I have seen in various papers that we can, for example, take $C_1(t) = C_2(t) = (ct/\log(t))^t$. We can also take $C_1(t) = (ct)^t, C_2(t) = (c\sqrt{t})^t$. Another option is $C_1(t) = c^t, C_2(t) = c^t\cdot 2^{t^2/4}$.

Is it known whether there is some non-trivial tradeoff curve for the relationship between $C_1(t)$ and $C_2(t)$? For example, if I'm fine with setting $C_2(t) = (ct^{2/3})^t$, what's the best $C_1(t)$ I can get?

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  • $\begingroup$ Hi, Would you mind posting the reference where you got the t/log t and t, \sqrt{t} constant? Thanks! $\endgroup$
    – user2890
    Commented Jul 13, 2011 at 4:30
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    $\begingroup$ @ Q. Zeng: Extremal properties of Rademacher functions with applications to the Khintchine and Rosenthal inequalities, Trans. Amer. Math. Soc. 349 (1997), 997-1027 (T. Figiel, P. Hitczenko, W. B. Johnson, G. Schechtman, and J. Zinn). Best constants in moment inequalities for linear combinations of independent and exchangeable random variables, Ann. Probability Theory 13 (1985), 234–253, (W. B. Johnson, G. Schechtman and J. Zinn). The simple argument at the beginning of the earlier paper gives something, but not the best $c_1(t)$ for a fixed $c_2(t)$ (Jelani knows this). $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 13, 2011 at 11:17
  • $\begingroup$ @Bill Johnson: Thanks very much! I found the sqrt(p) and p bounds in a paper by Pinelis and Utev. $\endgroup$
    – user2890
    Commented Aug 17, 2011 at 17:54
  • $\begingroup$ Voting to close to stop MO from resurrecting it every few weeks. $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 30, 2011 at 15:42
  • $\begingroup$ Do you have a response to the answers below? $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 8, 2023 at 14:57

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According to Theorems 6.1 and 6.2, the best constants $C_1(t)$ and $C_2(t)$ are given by \begin{equation} C_1(t)=(c\ga)^t,\quad C_2(t)=(c\sqrt\ga\,e^{t/\ga})^t \end{equation} for $\ga\in[1,t]$, up to a universal real constant $c>0$.

E.g., if you want $C_2(t) = (ct^{2/3})^t$, solving the equation $(ct^{2/3})^t=(c\sqrt\ga\,e^{t/\ga})^t$, you get $\ga\sim\dfrac{6t}{\ln t}$ as $t\to\infty$, so that you get $C_1(t)=\Big(\dfrac{ct}{\ln t}\Big)^t$ for some (possibly different) universal real constant $c>0$.

Exact versions of Rosenthal-type bounds for $t\in[2,3]\cup[5,\infty)$ are given in Theorems 1.3 and 1.5; see also Proposition 1.2.

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  • $\begingroup$ So you can get $C_2(t) = (c t^{1/2+\varepsilon})^t$ and $C_1(t) = \left(\frac{ct}{\log t}\right)^t$ for any $\varepsilon>0$? $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 25, 2022 at 9:00
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    $\begingroup$ @ThomasDybdahlAhle : Yes, this is true. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 25, 2022 at 13:30
  • $\begingroup$ do you have an intuition (or theorem) for when $C_2=(c\sqrt t)^t$ and $C_1=(ct/\log t)^t$ is achievable? Like I suppose it is for simple binomial and poisson distributions. Or maybe that's not even true? $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 28, 2022 at 11:32
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    $\begingroup$ @ThomasDybdahlAhle : Yes, these constant factors are achievable -- when the $X_i$'s are iid symmetric with a $3$-point support set; see Lemma 6.5 in the first linked paper. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 28, 2022 at 12:48
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There is a good constant in Rio's Marcinkiewicz-Zygmund type inequality: $${\bf E} |X|^t \le \left((t-1)\sum_{i=1}^n ({\bf E}|X_i|^t)^{2/t} \right) ^{t/2} $$ for independent centered $X_i$, $t\ge 2$ . [ Rio, E., 2009, Moment Inequalities for Sums of Dependent Random Variables under Projective Conditions, J. Theor. Probab. 22: 146-163. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10959-008-0155-9 ]

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