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Let $G=\operatorname{PGL}_2(p)$, where $p\ge 5$ is a prime. Is there a generating triple of involutions $(x,y,z)$ of $G$ such that $|xy|=p$, $|xz|=p+1$ and $|yz|=p-1$? That means, $\langle x,y,z\rangle=G$ with

  1. $x^2=y^2=z^2=1$;

  2. $\langle x,y\rangle \cong D_{2p}$;

  3. $\langle x,z\rangle\cong D_{2(p+1)}$;

  4. $\langle y,z\rangle\cong D_{2(p-1)}$.

If there exists, then what is the number of such triples?

We know that when $p\equiv 1\pmod 4$ we have $x,y\in\operatorname{PSL}_2(p)$, while when $p\equiv 3\pmod 4$ there is exactly one of them in $\operatorname{PSL}_2(p)$ (but we do not know which one is).

Is there any result on this?

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Such triples exist, I think.

First, embed $PGL_2(p)$ in $S_{p+1}$ through its action on $1$-spaces from ${\mathbf F}_p^2$. This maps elements of order $p+1$ in $PGL_2(p)$ to $(p+1)$-cycles, and elements of order $p-1$ to $(p-1)$-cycles. In particular, every element of order $p+1$ or $p-1$ gets mapped to an odd permutation.

There are two conjugacy classes of elements of order two in $PGL_2(p)$. Elements from one class fix two $1$-spaces and elements from the other class fix none. So, elements of one class map to even permutations and elements of the other map to odd permutations under the given embedding.

It follows now that if $a,b \in PGL_2(p)$ have order two with $|ab| \in \{p-1,p+1\}$ then one of $a,b$ fixes two points and the other fixes none.

The stabilizer $B$ of a $1$-space in $PGL_2(p)$ is an extension of a cyclic group of order $p$ by a cyclic group of order $p-1$ that acts faithfully. It follows that if $a,b \in B$ are distinct elements of order two, then $|ab|=p$.

Now we are in good shape. Pick $g \in PGL_2(p)$ with $|g|=p+1$. Let $z=g^{(p+1)/2}$. As $g$ acts as a $(p+1)$-cycle, $z$ is a fixed-point-free involution. Now find involutions $a,b$, each with two fixed points, such that $|az|=p+1$ and $|bz|=p-1$. (This is certainly possible by the arguments above.) Now pick any $1$-space $V$ from ${\mathbf F}_p^2$. As $\langle g \rangle$ acts transitively on $1$-spaces, there exist a $\langle g \rangle$-conjugate $x$ of $a$ and a $\langle g \rangle$-conjugate $y$ of $b$ such that both $x$ and $y$ fix $V$.

As $g$ centralizes $z$, we get that $|xz|=p+1$ and $|yz|=p-1$. So, $x \neq y$. Now, as $x$ and $y$ fix a common $1$-space, $|xy|=p$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Many thanks for your answer but I have some questions on your solution. Firstly I think the involutions without any fixed points could also be mapped to an even permutation when $p\equiv 3\mod 4$. And could you give more details on the existence of involutions $a,b$ making $|az|=p+1$ and $|bz|=p-1$? $\endgroup$
    – Groups
    Commented Jun 10, 2020 at 5:38
  • $\begingroup$ 1) You are correct that fixed-point-free involutions will act as even permutations when $p \equiv 3 \bmod 4$. This does not matter. Elements of one of the two classes will act as even permutations and elements of the other will act as odd permutations. Which does which depends on $p \bmod 4$. The key point is that elements of order $p-1$ or $p+1$ will act as odd permutations and therefore, if one of these elements is the product of two involutions, then these two involutions are not in the same class. So, one of the two involutions is fixed point free and the other is not. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 11, 2020 at 11:46
  • $\begingroup$ 2) As you say, $PGL_2(p)$ contains dihedral subgroups of order $2(p+1)$ and $2(p-1)$. Therefore, there exist elements $r$ and $s$ of respective orders $p+1$ and $p-1$ and involutions $c,d,f,h$ such that $cd=r$ and $fh=s$. By comment (1) above, we may assume that $d$ is fixed point free and so is $h$. Now find $u,v$ such that $u^{-1}du=z$ and $v^{-1}hv=z$. Set $a=u^{-1}cu$ and $b=v^{-1}fv$. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 11, 2020 at 11:54
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You might find helpful the paper of Liebeck and Shalev "Classical Groups, Probabilistic Methods, and the (2,3)-Generation Problem". There, they show that there are three involutions that generate all but finitely many simple classical groups. Indeed, the same is true if you require the involutions to be conjugate.

Their technique is to choose elements at random, and show that with high probability they avoid being all contained in a maximal subgroup. Perhaps this technique can be adjusted for $PGL$, or perhaps their result for $PSL$ will suffice for your application.

Results of the type that you're looking for often go along with work on the (2,3)-generation problem, which asks whether a group is generated by an involution together with an element of order 3. (This question is interesting partly because such groups are exactly the quotients of the modular group $PSL_2(\mathbb{Z})$.)

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your answer. However, I think in this case the probabilistic method cannot apply because both $\langle x,z\rangle\cong D_{2(p+1)}$ and $\langle y,z\rangle\cong D_{2(p-1)}$ are maximal in $G$ and we have so many restrictions on the orders of products. $\endgroup$
    – Groups
    Commented Jun 10, 2020 at 5:40

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