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definability by formulas in first-order logic, e.g. as explained at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definable_set, or as in J. Robinson's first-order definition of the integers in the field of rationals

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Is multiplication implicitly definable from successor?

(Model theorists please note that this is implicit definability in a model, which is not the same as the notion used in Beth's implicit definability theorem.) … Implicit definability is a very weak form of second-order definability, one which involves no second-order quantifiers. …
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Is multiplication implicitly definable from successor?

Contrary to my initial expectation, the answer is Yes. This answer is based on the idea of Clemens Grabmayer, which makes the observation that addition $+$ is definable from multiplication $\cdot$ and …
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Non-definability of graph 3-colorability in first-order logic

Here is one way to do it. 2-colorability case. First let's warm up with the 2-colorability case. Notice that odd-length cycles are not 2-colorable, since the colors have to alternate as you go around …
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Is there a subset of the natural number plane, which doesn't know which of its slices are ar...

$\newcommand{\N}{\mathbb{N}}$My question, more precisely, is: Question. Is there a set $B\subset \N\times\N$, such that the set of indices where it is arithmetically definable, that is, $\{ n\in\N \mi …
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Is the theory of a partial order bi-interpretable with the theory of a pre-order?

A partial order relation $\leq$ on a set $A$ is a binary relation that is reflexive, transitive, and antisymmetric. A preorder relation $\unlhd$ (also sometimes known as a quasi order or pseudo order) …
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Can $L$ be defined without parameters?

Yes, the parameter-free version of $L$ gives rise to the same constructible universe $L$. You will still get all of $L$ this way, but it will come more slowly. The reason is that at stage $\alpha+1$, …
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Is there a simple instance of intransitivity for implicit definability?

This question continues the theme of some recent questions on implicit definability. … The main original question was whether implicit definability is transitive. Main Question 1. Is the implicitly-definable-over relation transitive? …
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Ways to define "definability"

In the case of ordinal definability, the structures are $\alpha\mapsto V_\alpha$. … than ordinal-definability. …
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Are no infinite subsets of the set of all propositional atoms definable in this structure, e...

It's a nice question. This Boolean algebra, known as the Lindenbaum algebra, is a countable atomless Boolean algebra — it is atomless because we can always take the conjunction of any formula with a n …
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Complexity of definable global choice functions

There is no such phenomenom for $n\geq 2$. The reason is that if a model of ZFC has a definable choice function, of any complexity, then it actually has one of complexity $\Delta_2$. This is because t …
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Why include $0$ and $1$ in the signature of Presburger arithmetic?

It is the same in Peano arithmetic, where the standard language is $\{+,\cdot,0,1,<\}$ for the standard model $\langle\mathbb{N},+,\cdot,0,1,<\rangle$, even though $0$, $1$, and $<$ are definable from …
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Can $V\neq\text{HOD}$ if every $\Sigma_2$-definable set has an ordinal-definable element?

Note that we may refer to $\Sigma_2$-truth since there is a universal truth predicate for truth of bounded complexity (so there will be no issues with Tarski's theorem on the non-definability of truth) … And finally, asserting that the elements of $A$ are really not ordinal-definable has complexity $\Pi_2$, since "$x\in\text{OD}$'' has complexity $\Sigma_2$, as any instance of ordinal-definability reflects …
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What ordinals are definable relations in Peano Arithmetic?

The answer is the ordinal $\omega_1^{ck}$, named after Church and Kleene, which is defined to be the supremum of the ordinals coded by a computable relation on $\mathbb{N}$. It happens also to be the …
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Reconstructing a model from its definable sets

I like this question very much. For 1, you can add a relation symbol for every set in the family, and this will of course suffice to define every set in the family, while creating no additional def …
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Can $V\neq\text{HOD}$ if every $\Sigma_2$-definable set has an ordinal-definable element?

I am also interested in the case of $\Pi_2$-definability. Question 2. Is there a model of $\text{ZFC}+V\neq\text{HOD}$ in which every $\Pi_2$-definable set has an ordinal-definable element? …
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