# Questions tagged [definability]

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### Self-additive posets

We say that a partially ordered set $(P,<)$ is self-additive if the two natural embeddings of $P$ in $P\oplus P$ (the linear sum of $P$ and itself) are elementary.
We have the following.
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### closed and bounded intervals of definably complete ordered groups

True or False?
All closed and bounded intervals of definably complete
ordered groups are definably compact.
Let $G$ be an ordered abelian group. Then, a definable subset $D ⊆ G$ is said to be ...

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### In NBG (ZFC + classes) if $P$ nonempty predicate of classes must $P$ have definable solution?

Let $A, B, C..X, Y$ range over potentially proper classes in NBG set theory (or adding class quantification to ZFC in obvious way) and $x,y,z$ range over sets.
Since I don't know the proper symbols ...

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### Problem with definability in the constructible hierarchy

This is a rather technical question. I cannot find my mistake in a proof of the (obviously wrong) following sentence: Every countable ordinal is $\Sigma_2$-definable in $J_{\omega_1 + 1}$ by a formula ...

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### Are the definable hyper-reals, using quantifiers only over the standard reals and natural numbers, the same as the algebraic numbers?

This question arose today at Yevgeny Gordon's talk, "Will nonstandard analysis be
the analysis of the future?" at the CUNY Logic
Workshop. Here is my way of asking it.
Consider the ordered real field ...

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### Define $\mathbb{N}$ in the ring $\mathbb{Z}$ without Lagrange's theorem

It is well-known that the set of nonnegative integers $\mathbb{N}$ is definable in the ring of integers $\mathbb{Z}$. Indeed, by Lagrange's four squares theorem we have $\mathbb{N} = \{n \in \mathbb{Z}...

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### Cohen's model yet again

It has been discussed already whether a countable OD set necessarily contains an OD element. See e.g.
A question about ordinal definable real numbers
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A negative answer was obtained in Archive for ...

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### What are the minimal requirements for the definable hyperreal field plus transfer?

It is interesting that to prove the transfer principle for the definable hyperreal field, one requires no more choice than for proving, for instance, the countable additivity of the Lebesgue measure. ...

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### Is factorial definable using a $\Delta_0$ formula?

The factorial function is primitive recursive, and therefore definable by a $\Sigma_1$ formula.
Is it also definable by a $\Delta_0$ formula (i.e. bounded quantifiers)?
If not, why?

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### Are there known ways to posit definable global choice in ZF without positing V=L?

I need a global choice function defined by a formula in (a fragment of) ZF. There is no harm in assuming V=L for my purposes. But I wonder if there are any familiar alternative ways to get this?
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### Can $V\neq\text{HOD}$ if every $\Sigma_2$-definable set has an ordinal-definable element?

This question arises from an issue arising in user38200's recent question concerning models of set theory in which every definable set has a definable element. In my answer to that question, with ...

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### Definability of arithmetic functions and relations

Motivation: Many "weak" arithmetic functions and/or relations ("relations" for short) are equivalent with relations explicitly definable by relations which were recursively defined by them beforehand (...

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### Ordinal definable sets of reals in the Solovay

To be precise, let $\Omega$ be an inaccessible cardinal in $L$ and let N be the Solovay model defined by the Levy-collapse in this case. Then $\Omega$ is $\aleph_1$ in $N$.
How many different OD (=...

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### Outer Definability of a Class

Definition: Let $C$ be a class of sets and $\mathcal{L}$ a first order relational language. We say $C$ is "outer definable" by $\mathcal{L}$ if there is a first order theory $T$ and for each $n_{R}$ - ...

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### $(\kappa,\lambda)$ - Minimal Models & Stronger Version of Rowbottom's Theorem

Definition 1: Let $M$ be a $\mathcal{L}$ - structure and $A\subseteq Dom(M)$. Define:
$Def_{A}(M):=\{X\subseteq Dom(M)~|~\exists n\in \omega~~\exists \varphi (x,y_1,...,y_n)\in \mathcal{L}-Form~~\...

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### Ways to define “definability”

The notion of a definable set is not expressible in the language of set theory: there is no formula $\delta(x)$ that is equivalent with there being a formula $\phi(y)$ such that $x = \lbrace y : \phi(...

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### Is there a subset of the natural number plane, which doesn't know which of its slices are arithmetic?

$\newcommand{\N}{\mathbb{N}}$
My question, more precisely, is:
Question. Is there a set $B\subset \N\times\N$, such that the set of indices where it is arithmetically definable, that is, $\{ n\in\N \...

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### Existence property for ordered fields

A theory $T$ has the existence property (EP) if the following holds:
Let $\phi(x)$ be a formula with one free variable (and no parameters) such that $T \vdash (\exists x) \phi(x)$. Then there is ...

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### Iterating definability

An odd -- probably basic -- question about model theory:
For $\mathcal{M}$ a structure in a (first-order) signature $\Sigma$, let $\mathcal{M}'$ be the structure in signature $\Sigma\sqcup\lbrace U\...

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### What ordinals are definable relations in Peano Arithmetic?

I am not asking which order types PA proves are well ordered. That would be all up to $\epsilon_0$. Rather I mean, assuming a stronger ambient theory such as Zermelo set theory, which ordinals have ...

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### Methods for proving non FO definability

I'm having difficulties to prove that the subset of even numbers is not first-order definable in $(\mathbb{N},<)$. Any hint is welcomed!
More generally, what are usual techniques in order to prove ...