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Consider the split monic $f=\prod_{i=1}^n(x-x_i)\in \mathbb Z[x_1 ,\dots ,x_n,x]$. Its discriminant is usually defined as $$(-1)^{n(n-1)/2}\prod_{i=1}^nf^\prime(x_i)=\prod_{1\leq i<j\leq n}(x_i-x_j)^2.$$

What is the reason for taking this definition as opposed to $\prod_{i=1}^nf^\prime(x_i)$? The product of the derivatives at the roots "feels" to me more canonical than the product on the RHS.

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    $\begingroup$ One good “reason” is so that the discriminant is a square iff the Galois group of the polynomial is inside the alternating group, for example. (For example $x^3 + Ax + B$ defines a cyclic aka Galois cubic extension iff $-4A^3 - 27B^2$ is a square.) [As someone who mostly ignores the sign and other constants I do sympathize though! I hope I got them right above though haha :).] $\endgroup$
    – alpoge
    Commented Aug 29, 2021 at 0:27
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    $\begingroup$ The reason is that the formula on the right side should be considered more fundamental, not the formula on the left, when seeking a symmetric expression in the roots. Don't use s a product of anything "at" the roots, but a symmetric expression in the roots that vanishes if any pair of roots are equal. That explains the factors $(x_i-x_j)^2$. Do you consider the simplest polynomial with a double root at $0$ to be $x^2$ or $-x^2$? The product that interests you on the left (without the sign) is also interesting and has a name: it is called the resultant of $f(x)$ and $f'(x)$. $\endgroup$
    – KConrad
    Commented Aug 29, 2021 at 1:51
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    $\begingroup$ @KConrad You should write this as an answer. $\endgroup$
    – rimu
    Commented Aug 29, 2021 at 10:04
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    $\begingroup$ @rimu ok, done. $\endgroup$
    – KConrad
    Commented Aug 30, 2021 at 18:18

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The reason is that the formula on the right side should be considered more fundamental, not the formula on the left, when seeking a symmetric expression in the roots. Don't use a product of anything "at" the roots, but a symmetric expression in the roots that vanishes if any pair of roots are equal. That explains the factors $(x_i-x_j)^2$. Do you consider the simplest polynomial with a double root at 0 to be $x^2$ or $-x^2$? The product on the left (without the sign) is also interesting and has a name: it is called the resultant of $f(x)$ and $f'(x)$.

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  • $\begingroup$ This answer reminds me of the situation with the geometric Laplacian and the analytic Laplacian, which differ by a sign but are both interesting canonical objects. I wonder if there is anything deeper to this superficial resemblance. $\endgroup$
    – Terry Tao
    Commented Aug 31, 2021 at 7:03
  • $\begingroup$ @TerryTao since those Laplacian sign ambiguities are universal (an overall sign change) in all dimensions while the one for discriminants (of $f$) and resultants (of $f$ and $f'$) vary with the degree of the polynomial, I suspect there is nothing more than a superficial resemblance. $\endgroup$
    – KConrad
    Commented Aug 31, 2021 at 14:32
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The definition of the resultant $\text{res}(f,g)$ of two (monic) polynomials $f,g\in {\mathbb Z}[x]$ as the determinant of the corresponding Sylvester matrix, readily implies that if $\alpha_1,\ldots,\alpha_n$ are the roots of $f(x)$ (say, in ${\mathbb C}$) then $$\text{res}(f,g)=\prod_{i=1}^ng(\alpha_i).$$ Now, if you define the discriminant of the (monic) polynomial $f(x)$ as $$\Delta(f(x))=\text{res}(f(x),f'(x))=\prod_{i=1}^nf'(\alpha_i),$$ writing $f(x)=(x-\alpha_1)\cdots (x-\alpha_n)$ it follows that $$f'(\alpha_j)=\prod_{i\neq j}^n(\alpha_j-\alpha_i).$$ In this equality, once you order the indices, for each pair $i<j$ there are two factors $\pm(\alpha_i-\alpha_j)$ and thus \begin{align*} \Delta(f(x))&=\prod_{i=1}^nf'(\alpha_i)=\prod_{i\neq j}^n(\alpha_j-\alpha_i)\\ &=(-1)^{n(n-1)/2}\prod_{i< j}^n(\alpha_j-\alpha_i)^2 \end{align*} where the sign is because there are precisely $n(n-1)/2$ pairs $\pm(\alpha_i-\alpha_j)$.

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