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Let us consider $M\subseteq V$ a transitive class such that $M^\kappa\subseteq M$ for some cardinal $\kappa$. Now take $\mathbb{P}$ a $\kappa^+$-cc (or $\leq\kappa-$distrivutive) forcing notion in $V$. Then it is the case that, provided that $G\subset \mathbb{P}$ is $V$-generic, then $V[G]$ also thinks that $M[G]^\kappa\subseteq M[G]$. I would be interested in to know a detailed proof of both facts because I have founded them mentioned everywhere but, unfortunattely, without any kind of explanations.

Thank you all in advance.

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First, let me give an incorrect argument:

Working in $V[G]$, suppose $X_\eta$ ($\eta\in\kappa$) is a $\kappa$-sequence of sets in $M[G]$. Then we get a $\kappa$-sequence of names $\nu_\eta$ in $M$ which correspond to those sets: $\nu_\eta[G]=X_\eta$. Since $M^\kappa\subseteq M$, we have $(\nu_\eta)_{\eta\in\kappa}\in M$. But from this and $G$, we can construct the sequence $(X_\eta)_{\eta\in \kappa}$ in $M[G]$. So $M[G]^\kappa\subseteq M[G]$.

Why is this wrong? Well, the sequence $X_\eta$ exists in $V[G]$, not $V$; so $V$ might not see the sequence of names $\nu_\eta$. If $V$ doesn't see it, then $M$ doesn't have it, and so we're stuck.


How do we get around this? I'll answer for the $\kappa^+$-c.c. case; hopefully it will be clear how to handle this for the distributive case.

Suppose the theorem fails. Then there is a name $\mu\in V$ for such a sequence of names $\nu_\eta\in M$ which give a sequence of sets in $M[G]^\kappa$ but not $M[G]$. Now, the key point is that each $\nu_\eta$ is in $M$, and hence in $V$! So what $\nu_\eta$ is, is forced by some single condition in $G$.

For each $\eta$, let $A_\eta$ be a maximal antichain of conditions which decide what $\nu_\eta$ is. By the chain condition on $\mathbb{P}$, $A_\eta$ has size $\le\kappa$; by the closure condition on $M$, this means $A_\eta\in M$, and by the closure condition again the sequence $\mathcal{A}=(A_\eta)_{\eta\in\kappa}$ is in $M$. But from $\mathcal{A}$ and $G$, we can construct the sequence of $X_\eta$s in $M[G]$: given $\eta$, look for a condition $p\in G$ which forces a value for $\nu_\eta$, and then evaluate that name.

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  • $\begingroup$ That was my problem... I reached your same proof but I don't know where $\kappa^+-$cc-ness is expected to appear.. $\endgroup$
    – Cesare
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 18:39
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    $\begingroup$ There is a subtle issue here: each of the names $\nu_\eta$ is in $M$, but the whole sequence only lives in $V[G]$. You need the extra assumptions on $\mathbb{P}$ to get the sequence itself (or a good enough approximation) in $V$. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 18:43
  • $\begingroup$ Of course, Cummings' chapter from the Handbook. It's on page 804. $\endgroup$
    – Cesare
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 18:45
  • $\begingroup$ @Cesare I was totally wrong, see Miha's comment above. I'm editing my answer now. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 18:46
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you @NoahSchweber !! But only one more thing: the name for the sequence $(X_\eta)_\eta$ would be $\bigcup_\eta \{\{op(\eta,\nu_\eta)\}\times A_\eta\}$? $\endgroup$
    – Cesare
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 19:08

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