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$\def\GL{\operatorname{GL}}\def\ZZ{\mathbb{Z}}\def\FF{\mathbb{F}}\def\Id{\mathrm{Id}}\def\fu{\mathfrak{u}}$Let $p$ be prime, let $n<p$, let $U_n(\FF_p)$ be the group of $n \times n$ upper triangular matrices with $1$'s on the diagonal, and let $\fu_n(\FF_p)$ be the $\FF_p$-Lie algebra of $n \times n$ upper triangular matrices with $0$'s on the diagonal. Then we have mutually inverse bijections $$ \exp : \fu_n(\FF_p) \to U_n(\FF_p) \quad \text{and} \quad \log : U_n(\FF_p) \to \fu_n(\FF_p)$$ given by the usual power series. These power series are actually polynomials since the matrices involved are nilpotent, and we never divide by $p$ since $n<p$.

Question: Suppose that $G$ is a subgroup of $U_n(\FF_p)$. Is $\log(G)$ a Lie-subalgebra of $\fu_n(\FF_p)$?

Motivation: See here for a related question where the answer turned out to be "no". I was motivated by this vexing question, but I no longer claim my approach there is useful. I wanted to turn the question of embedding groups into a question of embedding Lie algebras, and thus turn it into the question of effective bounds in Ado's theorem. In particular, I believed that I had a family of $2$-step nilpotent Lie algebras whose smallest faithful representation had dimension $\Omega(n^2)$. But, according to this survey on effective versions of Ado, for nilpotence degree $\leq 3$, $n+1$ always suffices.

Remark: The hard part is showing that $\log(G)$ is closed under addition. If so, I'm pretty sure I can show that it's closed under Lie bracket. I'll upload the details of this in the unlikely case that someone can do addition but not Lie bracket.

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    $\begingroup$ In other words, on $\mathfrak{u}_n(F_p)$ you have both the Lie algebra and group law (pullback of the group law by exp). There is a way to formulate the Lie algebras laws (sum and bracket) in terms of the group law, involving rational powers. These are Lazard formulas. If I'm correct with your conditions $p$ won't appear in denominators, and hence the answer to your question is positive. I'll double check. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Dec 5 at 23:11
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    $\begingroup$ The reference is doi.org/10.24033/asens.1021 (Lazard 1954), about "inversion of Hausdorff's formula". It's not obvious to read the result, but I'm pretty sure it's covered. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
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    $\begingroup$ @YCor Ah, thanks! I read French very slowly, so it will take me a while to work through Lazard, but I found numdam.org/item/10.1007/s10240-016-0087-3.pdf , and Theorem 5.C.1 is clearly relevant. The only question is whether the integers $q_s$ and $q'_s$ in that theorem are divisible by $p$. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 5 at 23:53
  • $\begingroup$ Indeed, we didn't have to care on denominators when we wrote this. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Dec 6 at 0:11

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