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Consider a compact set $E\subset \mathbb{R}^n$ ad assume that ${\cal H}^{n-1}(E)=0$.

If $\epsilon>0$, there is a finite covering of $E$ made of $N_\epsilon$ open balls $B_{r_{\epsilon,k}}(x_{\epsilon,k})$ such that $\sum_{k=1}^{N_\epsilon}r_{\epsilon,k}^{n-1} \leq \epsilon$.

Indeed (I will omit the indices $_\epsilon$) for $\epsilon>0$, there is a countable family of sets $F_k$ of diameters $diam(F_j)$ such that $\sum_j diam(F_j)^{n-1}<\epsilon$. Choose open balls $B_{r_j}(y_j)$ of radius $\rho_j =diam(F_j)$ such that $B_{\rho_j}(y_j)\supset F_j$. From compactness, a finite subcovering $B_{\rho_{j_1}}(y_{j_1}), \ldots, B_{\rho_{j_N}}(y_{j_N})$ of $E$ exists such that $\sum_{k=1}^N \rho^{n-1}_{j_k} \leq \epsilon$ proving the assertion.

My question is: in the given hypoteses on $E$ and for any given $\epsilon>0$, is it possible to find a finite covering of $E$ made of balls $B_{r_\epsilon}(x_{\epsilon,k})$ with the same radius $r_\epsilon>0$, such that $\sum_{k=1}^{N_\epsilon} r_\epsilon^{n-1} \leq \epsilon$?

If considering the Lebesgue measure (i.e. ${\cal H}^n$) the assertion should be positive, what about ${\cal H}^{n-1}$ or ${\cal H}^{k}$ with $k< n$?

Or is there an explicit counterexample?

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  • $\begingroup$ Your assumption would imply zero packing dimension of this set... $\endgroup$
    – Asaf
    Commented Nov 18 at 12:09
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks! I am not familiar with packing dimensions, please elaborate a bit... $\endgroup$
    – V. Moretti
    Commented Nov 18 at 12:14
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    $\begingroup$ Packing dimension is the (measure theoretical) analogue of box dimension. It is exactly what you get if you mimic the construction of the Hausdorff measure but require all radii to be the same. This is a different notion of dimension that bounds from above (obviously) the Hausdorff dimension, but in general the inequality can be strict. You can read more about it in any reputable book about fractal geometry, the most standard reference is Mattila's Geometry of Sets and Measures in Euclidean Spaces. $\endgroup$
    – Asaf
    Commented Nov 18 at 14:19
  • $\begingroup$ I now understand that the assertion can be false. However, does anybody know an explicit counterexample? $\endgroup$
    – V. Moretti
    Commented Nov 19 at 9:35

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Let $N(r)$ be the number of $r$-balls needed to cover $E$. Then the lower Minkowski dimension of $E$ is $\liminf_{r \to 0} \log N(r)/\log(1/r)$. I claim that your assumptions imply that the lower Minkowski dimension is at most $n - 1$.

In fact, by taking $\varepsilon \leq 1$ arbitrarily small (and noticing that $r_\varepsilon \to 0$ as $\varepsilon \to 0$), it follows from your assumption that there exist arbitrarily small $r$ such that one can cover $E$ by a set of $r^{1 - n}$ $r$-balls. That is, there exist arbitrarily small $r$ such that $N(r) \leq r^{1 - n}$, which is of course equivalent to $$\liminf_{r \to 0}\frac{\log N(r)}{\log(1/r)} \leq n - 1,$$ as claimed.

(In my previous revision, I got a quantifier backwards, and incorrectly convinced myself that the upper Minkowski dimension of $E$, $\limsup_{r \to 0} \log N(r)/\log(1/r)$, is $\leq n - 1$. This would show that the packing dimension is $\leq n - 1$ as well. I am sorry for the confusion. No idea why it is claimed that the packing dimension is $0$ would come from, because it seems to be violated even by the simple example of a line segment in $\mathbb R^3$.)

Minkowski dimension is badly behaved under countable unions, unlike Hausdorff dimension. In view of this, the classic example of a compact set whose Hausdorff and Minkowski dimensions disagree is $\{1, 1/2, 1/3, \dots, 0\}$, whose Minkowski dimension is $1/2$ and whose Hausdorff dimension is $0$. This is Example 1.1.4 of Bishop and Peres' book on fractals, so let me not copy down the whole calculation here; the point is that if you want to cover $\{1, 1/2, \dots, 1/n\}$ by intervals of length $\lesssim n^{-2}$, then you need each interval to only cover a single point and therefore you need $n$ intervals.

In view of this, a counterexample to your claim is $E = \{1, 1/2, 1/3, \dots, 0\} \times C$ where $C$ is a Cantor set in $[0, 1]$ of Hausdorff dimension $\delta > 1/2$. The Hausdorff dimension of $E$ is $\delta < 1$ but the Minkowski dimension is $1/2 + \delta > 1$.


PREVIOUS REVISION: If I'm reading your assumptions correctly, any compact set $E$ whose Hausdorff dimension is less than $n - 1$ but whose packing dimension is greater than $n - 1$ would be a counterexample. But I could be misinterpreting a quantifier.

Here's the intuition. Obviously we puny humans can't see the infinitesimal world, but things still appear $1$-dimensional, $2$-dimensional, or $3$-dimensional to us. Imagine you're nearsighted and can't tell the difference between two points at scale $r$. Let's informally say that the "dimension of $E$ at scale $r$", $s_E(r)$, is what dimension you perceive $E$ to have. Then the Hausdorff dimension is basically $\liminf_{r \to 0} s_E$ while the packing dimension is basically $\limsup_{r \to 0} s_E$. Obviously none of this is rigorous, but sometimes you hear measure theory people talking about "algorithmic fractal dimension" or "branching functions" which are both ways of making this intuition precise. Anyways, the point is we need a set which at some scales looks like it has small dimension and at other scales looks like it has big dimension.

Let $n = 2$ and start with $E_0 := [0, 1]^2$. Now let $E_1 = [1/3, 2/3] \times ([0, 1/3] \cup [2/3, 1])$, $E_2 = [4/9, 5/9] \times ([0, 1/9] \cup [2/9, 3/9] \cup [6/9, 7/9] \cup [8/9, 1])$, et cetra, so we're building a Cantor set in the line $\{1/2\} \times \mathbb R$. Keep doing this until you've built $E_{100}$, which is a union of cubes of side length $3^{-100}$. Break up each such cube into $9$ subcubes of side length $3^{-101}$ and remove the middle one, as in the construction of the Sierpinski carpet. Then do this for another $100$ stages. You get cubes of side length $3^{-200}$, in each one build a Cantor set in a line for $100$ stages, until you get cubes of side length $3^{-300}$, then in each of those build a Sierpinski carpet, and so on...

The Hausdorff dimension of this set is $\log 2/\log 3 < 1$, because when you try to compute the $s$-dimensional Hausdorff measure where $s > \log 2/\log 3$, you can bound that from above at each scale where $E$ looks like a Cantor set, and at those scales the measure is going to look arbitrarily small. But, in the definition of packing dimension, you need to be able to pack this set with balls at EVERY scale, and that includes the scales where it looks like a Cantor set. So the packing dimension of this set is $\log 8/\log 3 > 1$.

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    $\begingroup$ Thank you very much, I think this is the counterexample I was looking for. Let me some time to think about it and probably I will accept your answer. $\endgroup$
    – V. Moretti
    Commented Nov 19 at 17:49
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks again. Please be so kind to explain me why the existence, for any $\epsilon>0$, of a finite covering of $N_\epsilon$ balls of equal radius $r_\epsilon$ such that $N_\epsilon r^{n-1}<\epsilon$ implies that the packing dim is $0$. Whereas removing the equal radius constraint this implication does not hold. Be patient, this is the first time I found these notions and my research activity is quite far from these issues. $\endgroup$
    – V. Moretti
    Commented Nov 19 at 22:32
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    $\begingroup$ @V.Moretti I think I was mistaken, and your condition only shows that the lower (modified, maybe?) Minkowski dimension is at most n - 1. Now it's not true that the lower Minkowski dimension has to equal the Hausdorff dimension, so I think what you conjectured is false anyways, but I'll have to work through the details more carefully tomorrow if someone else doesn't answer it first. Sorry for the confusion. :( $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 20 at 2:19
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks in any case. I hope you will help me find a solution (as you are doing). I am a mathematical physicist and I need this result (proved or disproved) for a certain theoretical construction. Ok, now I will consider the notion of Minkowski dimension. $\endgroup$
    – V. Moretti
    Commented Nov 20 at 7:58
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    $\begingroup$ Many thanks for your efforts. $\endgroup$
    – V. Moretti
    Commented Nov 20 at 21:20

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