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I originally asked this on Stack Exchange but with no luck. Upon doing research with some noncommutative rings, I thought of a curious question. Does there exist a noncommutative unital ring $R$ and left ideal $I$ such that $R/I\cong R/\text{Ann}_R(R/I)$ as left $R$-modules but $I\neq \text{Ann}_R(R/I)$? I suspect that such an $R$ and $I$ do exist but are awkward to construct. Note that

$$\text{Ann}_R(R/I)=\{r\in R:\forall x\in R,\ rx\in I\}\subseteq I$$

and that $\text{Ann}_R(R/I)$ is always a two-sided ideal. As such, if $I$ is not two-sided then we already get $I\neq \text{Ann}_R(R/I)$. Any ideas would be appreciated.

My question is equivalent to this question with the additional constraint that $J$ must be two-sided.

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  • $\begingroup$ How about taking the ring freely generated by two non-commuting variables $X$ and $Y$. Set $I=RX$. Then the annihilator is zero and the map $w\mapsto wY$ is an isomorphism form $R$ to $R/I$. $\endgroup$
    – user130903
    Commented Sep 18, 2020 at 7:23
  • $\begingroup$ That map is not surjective is it? What would map to the coset $1+I$? I was thinking about using free rings as well, but couldn't think of a way to make it work. Maybe there's a way though. $\endgroup$
    – Anonymous
    Commented Sep 18, 2020 at 8:26

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You might as well assume that $\mathrm{Ann}_R(R/I)=0$ since if $S=R/\mathrm{Ann}_R(R/I)$ then $R/I\cong S$ as $R$-modules if and only if $S/(I/\mathrm{Ann}_R(R/I))\cong S$ as $S$-modules.

So now the question is whether you can have a ring $R$ and a non-zero left ideal $I$ such that $R/I\cong R$. Equivalently can there be $r\in R$ such that (i) $\mathrm{ann}_R(r)=I\neq 0$ and (ii) there is some $s\in R$ with $sr=1$; if $\varphi\colon R/I\to R$ is the isomorphism then take $r=\varphi(1+I)$ and $\varphi(s+I)=1$. To further rephrase we want an element $r$ of $R$ that is a right zero-divisor and a right unit.

This is indeed possible. Here is one example: let $R$ be the $\mathbb{C}$-linear endomorphisms of the polynomial ring $\mathbb{C}[X]$ and let $r$ be the element of $R$ given by multiplication by $X$. It is easy to construct a left inverse for $r$ (in fact one can easily find infinitely many). But if $x$ is the element of $R$ that sends a polynomial to its constant term viewed as the constant polynomial then $xr=0$.

The punchline If you just wanted to pull a rabbit out of a hat you could simply say that for $R=\mathrm{End}_{\mathbb{C}}(\mathbb{C}[X])$ and $r\in R$ given by $r(f)=Xf$, $I=\mathrm{ann}_R(r)\neq 0$ and there is an isomorphism of left $R$-modules $R/I\to R$ given by $x+I\mapsto xr$. It is surjective since there is $s\in R$ with $sr=1$ (Moreover $\mathrm{Ann}_R(R/I)=0$).

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  • $\begingroup$ That is not an isomorphism. It is not injective. $\endgroup$
    – Anonymous
    Commented Sep 18, 2020 at 9:58
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    $\begingroup$ Sorry. You are right. I think it is all correct except the punchline doesn't correctly reinterpret the previous discussion. I'll edit. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 18, 2020 at 10:10
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks! This is really useful! $\endgroup$
    – Anonymous
    Commented Sep 18, 2020 at 10:19

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