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Let $(X,\mu, d)$ be a metric measure space where $\mu$ is a doubling measure. For a relatively compact set $U\in X$ consider the following quantity $$I(U,\mu,d)=\int_U \int_U \log^2(d(x,y)) d\mu(x) d\mu(y). $$ Are there examples of metric measure spaces with relatively compact subsets for which $I$ isnt finite?

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    $\begingroup$ If $U$ is compact, then in particular it's bounded and so $d(x,y)$ is upper-bounded by some $M<\infty$. Doesn't that make the integral trivially finite? $\endgroup$ Aug 30, 2018 at 20:07
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    $\begingroup$ No.it doesnt.d(x,y) can be very small , consequently log^2 can be very large. In many cases integal becomes bounded but even in R^n it's not obvious, at least to me, why for an arbitrary measure the double integral should be bounded. it's trivial that its bounded bellow though. :) $\endgroup$
    – BigM
    Aug 30, 2018 at 20:16
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    $\begingroup$ Ah ok thanks. I somehow only thought the large values of $d(x,y)$ could be problematic -- ignored the small ones. $\endgroup$ Aug 30, 2018 at 20:41
  • $\begingroup$ In fact, for some nice Riemannian manifold our double integral is bounded. My limited personal experience suggests its bounded for general care. $\endgroup$
    – BigM
    Aug 30, 2018 at 20:52
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    $\begingroup$ $X=\{ x\}$ gives such examples. $\endgroup$ Aug 31, 2018 at 2:09

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(What follows does not claim to be a complete answer, but rather a possible reasoning line for a proof that such integrals converge in the general case.)

In the Euclidean $\mathbb{R}^n$ case this should be true for any relatively compact subset $U$, because the following integrals converge for all $R \in \mathbb{R}^+$ and all $\alpha \geq 0$ (and in particular for the non-negative integers $\alpha := n-1$, with $n\geq 1$): \begin{equation} \int_0^R \log^2(r) r^{\alpha} dr = \frac{R^{α + 1} \big((α + 1)^2 \log^2(R) - 2 (α + 1) \log(R) + 2\big)}{(α + 1)^3} \end{equation} On a general doubling space $X$ we can invoke Assouad's Theorem to see that there exist constants $n$ and $\epsilon \in (0,1)$ such that the $\epsilon$-snowflaked version of $X$, with metric $(d_X)^\epsilon$, can be embedded into Euclidean $\mathbb{R}^n$ by a bi-Lipschitz function $f:X \rightarrow \mathbb{R}^n$. In particular, a relatively compact $U \subset X$ would be mapped homeomorphically onto a relatively compact $f(U) \subset \mathbb{R}^n$.

At this point we could perform the integration on $f(U)$ (going through the bi-Lipschitz homeomorphism $f^{-1}:f(U) \rightarrow U$), use bi-Lipschitzianity and observe that the following integrals also converge, for all $n\geq 1$ and all $\epsilon \in (0,1)$: \begin{equation} \int_0^R \log^2(r^\epsilon) r^{\epsilon(n-1)} dr = \epsilon^2\int_0^R \log^2(r) r^{\epsilon(n-1)} dr \end{equation}

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  • $\begingroup$ For the sake of simplicity, let's stick to R. Why does the double integral behave as you stated? $\endgroup$
    – BigM
    Aug 31, 2018 at 15:59
  • $\begingroup$ This is roughly what I was thinking. Fix $R$, and write $U_R$ for the union of $x \in U$ such that the open ball of radius $R$ around $x$ is completely contained in $U$. For fixed $x \in U_R$, break the integral over $y \in U$ into a short range part (radius $r \in [0,R]$) and a long range part (radius $r>R$). The long range part is bounded because of relative compactness. The short range part is bounded because of the integral expression above. You then integrate over x, and get again something bounded by relative compactness. You then let $R$ go to zero. $\endgroup$ Aug 31, 2018 at 16:38
  • $\begingroup$ It should work. But I'm going to sit detail and fill in the details..btw thanks for refering to Assouad's embedding theorem. I wasnt aware of that. Seems if we can prove it for R^n then we have it for arbitrary doubling measure spaces. $\endgroup$
    – BigM
    Aug 31, 2018 at 16:52
  • $\begingroup$ Out of curiosity: did it work out? $\endgroup$ Sep 4, 2018 at 21:14
  • $\begingroup$ I wrote a sketch. I can do it with a few rather strong assumptions added. The ambient space should be Euclidean. Measure has to be a.c with repstect to Lebeague measure with bounded derivative . As C. Remling pointed out atomic measures and discrete spaces give cheap counterexamples $\endgroup$
    – BigM
    Sep 4, 2018 at 22:15

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