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In a new survey on $E_8$, namely

Skip Garibaldi - E8 the most exceptional group

, the author gives an example (Example 8.4., page 15) on how to construct a group of type E8 with a prescribed Tits-Index. This construction was actually invented by Tits and bears his name..

From the inclusion of $F_4 \subset E_6 \subset E_8$, after applying $H^1(k,-)$, a isotropic group of type $E_8$ with semi simple anisotropic kernel of type $E_6$ arises from an Albert Algebra $A$, which is a $F_4$ torsor (meaning an element of $H^1(k,F_4)$). (Note that this example serves to explain some properties of the Rost invariant of this $E_8$, but we want to focus on the construction itself.)

We will remember this for later and call it #Above

In the Paper

J. Tits - Stronger inner anisotropic forms of simple algebraic groups

,on the last page the author gives an example of a group of type $E_7$ having semi simple anisotropic kernel $D_5 \times A_1$, or in Tits's notation is of index $E^{48}_{7,1}$, meaning the vertex $6$ is circled.

He writes:

"..[27, Proposition 5] shows that groups with this index are classified by anisotropic quadratic forms $q$ in $10$ variables, whose invariant $c(q)$ is a division quaternion algebra."

1.Does he mean classified as constructed like in #Above ?

If he means like in #Above:

1.1.Is a group with that index constructed by choosing such a $q$, looking at $SO(q)$, which is of type $D_5$ and adjoint, noticing that $D_5\subset D_6 \subset E_7$ and applying $H^1(k,-)$?

What is confusing to me is that the anisotropic kernel of the resulting $E_7$ is not just $D_5$ but $D_5 \times A_1$. But on the other hand $D_5$ can never occur as anisotropic kernel, so it might all fit together.

2.What is known about the quadratic forms $q$?

I ponder they have splitting pattern $(1,2,2)$, after analyzing the more isotropic Tits-Indexes and taking into account Vishik's classification of splitting patterns.

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    $\begingroup$ Your questions are specific enough that it probably would be more effective for you simply to write to Skip and ask him your questions directly. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 14:52
  • $\begingroup$ I'd add to what Robert says the comment that your question needs some editing. It also needs some explicit references: e.g., preprint by Garibaldi is at front.math.ucdavis.edu/1605.01721, and article by Tits is at sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002186939090201X $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 16:17
  • $\begingroup$ About the editing: You mean details like $D_5$ being (strongly) inner? $\endgroup$
    – nxir
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 21:52
  • $\begingroup$ @nxir: No, I was just referring to the typography here including the missing shaded display of the main question you ask. It's easy to typeset that by starting a line with > (I also thought it would be helpful to include online links to the relevant articles.) $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 22, 2016 at 21:19

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This might shed some light on relationship between anisotropic quadratic forms in 10 variables and the desired forms of $E_7$, though it uses results more recent than Tits, and doesn't quite answer your questions as stated. Bruce Allison worked out the following results in his paper "Structurable division algebras and relative rank one simple Lie algebras" in Lie Algebras and Related Topics: Proceedings of a Summer Seminar Held June 26-July 6, 1984. More polished and easier to find is his later paper on "Tensor products of composition algebras, Albert Forms and Some Exceptional Simple Lie Algebras" in Transactions of the American Mathematical Society, Vol. 306, No. 2 (Apr., 1988)

Assume the base field $k$ does not have characteristic $2$ nor $3$. Take a division quaternion algebra $B$ and a division octonion algebra $C$ over $k$, for which $A = B \otimes C$ is a division algebra too. Equivalently, $B$ and $C$ contain no common quadratic extension of $k$. This tensor product $A = B \otimes C$ is a 32-dimensional algebra with involution -- a special sort of algebra that Allison calls a structurable algebra. Its skew elements form a 10-dimensional subspace $S$, and (with the division algebra condition), the norm form on $S$ is anisotropic. This is the $q$, and $q$ determines $A$ up to isomorphism (as a $k$-algebra with involution) -- see Theorem 5.4 of Allison's later paper.

By construction, we can describe the $q$ in more detail. The norm forms on $B$ and $C$ are Pfister forms, say $<1,b_1> \otimes <1,b_2>$ and $<1,c_1> \otimes <1,c_2> \otimes <1,c_3>$, respectively. The form $q$ is the orthogonal sum of the skew subspace of $B$ and (negative) the skew subspace of $C$. So we have $$q = (b_1, b_2, b_1 b_2, -c_1, -c_2, -c_3, -c_1 c_2, -c_2 c_3, - c_3 c_1, -c_1 c_2 c_3).$$ It may be easy to describe the possible $q$, using the classification of quaternion and octonion algebras.

Allison uses the structurable algebra $A$ to construct a 5-graded Lie algebra $K_{-2} \oplus K_{-1} \oplus K_0 \oplus K_1 \oplus K_2$ of the desired type. $K_{\pm 1}$ are 32-dimensional, identified with $A$. $K_{\pm 2}$ are 10-dimensional, identified with $S$. Lie brackets on $K_{\pm 1}$ arise from the structurable algebra via $[a_1, a_2] = a_1 \bar a_2 - a_2 \bar a_1$. $K_0$ is harder to describe.

Allison proves that all Lie algebras of type $E_{7,1}^{48}$ arise from this construction, and by the end of his latter paper (Transactions 1988) he constructs examples, e.g., over a field $R((T_1, T_2))$ of Laurent series.

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  • $\begingroup$ I havent really read that article since you posted, but this is great "news"! Vishik writes that the pattern (1,2,2) occurs as the difference of a $2$-Pfisterform and a $3$-Pfisterform, with no common slot. So it all fits together perfectly. On top of that i am sure that Tit's means the quaternion algfebra $B$ (in your explanation) by the invariant $c(q)$. $\endgroup$
    – nxir
    Commented Jun 22, 2016 at 19:59
  • $\begingroup$ I can't resist adding a reference to my own preprint arxiv.org/abs/1603.00780, where we describe (as one of the examples) the algebraic groups of type $E_{7,1}^{48}$ precisely in this fashion; see, in particular, Proposition 6.5.1. Our section 2.3.5 contains more information about these structurable algebras, and in particular, it explains how the quadratic form $q$ can be interpreted as the "Albert form" of the $32$-dimensional algebra $A = B \otimes C$ that Marty described. (Our paper deals with all linear algebraic groups of relative rank one, not just this particular case.) $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 23, 2016 at 7:35
  • $\begingroup$ (Notice that this "Albert form" is precisely the difference of the norm forms of the quaternion and the octonion algebra, so this corresponds again to what you wrote in your comment.) $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 23, 2016 at 7:38
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    $\begingroup$ Happy to see the expert commentary! I saw the preprint and other beautiful work on Moufang quadrangles and such, and thought first to refer to them. But I picked my way back in time to Allison's work in the 80s and ended up just giving references to his work. Sorry for the omission! $\endgroup$
    – Marty
    Commented Jun 23, 2016 at 9:01
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    $\begingroup$ This is great, and will help me a lot with my task. From 2.3.15 i see, how the term "Albert form" got involved even though were talking $10$ dimensional $q$. Thanks again. I will mark this as answered. But dont anybody hesitate to post more such fruitful comments. $\endgroup$
    – nxir
    Commented Jun 23, 2016 at 11:03

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