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Is the statement below false?

"The metaplectic group Mp2(R) is not a matrix group: it has no faithful finite-dimensional representations."


Possible "counterexample": Sp(2n,R) is a subgroup of O(4n,C) (or O(2n,2n) if you prefer). So the Clifford algebraic Pin group will contain a double cover. The double cover will definitely be disconnected if Sp(2n,R) is not a subgroup of SO(4n,C). It should be connected if it is entirely in the Spin subgroup of the Pin group.

Consider the case of Sp(2,R). If we have a 2x2 real matrix with determinant 1, we can establish an isomorphism in SO(4,C) as follows: a^2-b^2-c^2+d^2 = 1
[a+b,c-d;c+d,a-b] <---> [a,-bi,-ci,-d;bi,a,d,-ci;ci,-d,a,bi;d,ci,-bi,a]

Since Spin(4,C) will double cover SO(4,C), we could have a connected double cover of Sp(2,R).


Note: The proposed "example" is false due to submitted answer. Thanks.

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  • $\begingroup$ Perhaps you could include details of your proposed counterexample? $\endgroup$
    – MTS
    Commented Jan 16, 2013 at 5:27
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    $\begingroup$ This question is written in an argumentative tone of voice, which risks turning people off. I recommend that you revise it, taking into consideration advice from mathoverflow.net/howtoask. Among other things, you could post your putative faithful finite-dimensional representation. At the minimum, writing up your construction carefully will probably lead you to find an error. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 16, 2013 at 5:29
  • $\begingroup$ Sorry about that. I hope this is better for everyone. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 16, 2013 at 5:45
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    $\begingroup$ @Alexander Schlering: You're just constructed the disconnected double cover of the symplectic group inside of the disconnected Pin group. This has nothing to do with the metaplectic group, and is not useful. Be more attentive to the importance of checking connectedness. $\endgroup$
    – user29720
    Commented Jan 16, 2013 at 6:04
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    $\begingroup$ -1 for persisting despite Theo's explanation (and any number of sources which state that the metaplectic group is not a matrix group) $\endgroup$
    – Yemon Choi
    Commented Jan 16, 2013 at 7:26

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Keep in mind that any finite-dimensional representation of a Lie group determines a finite-dimensional representation of its Lie algebra, and for a connected Lie group the induced Lie algebra representation determines the Lie group representation.

However, every finite-dimensional representation of $\operatorname{Lie}(\mathrm{Mp}(2,\mathbb R)) = \mathfrak{sl}(2,\mathbb R)$ comes from a representation of $\mathrm{SL}(2,\mathbb R)$, and so does not come from a faithful rep of $\mathrm{Mp}(2,\mathbb R)$. One way to see this by directly classifying all finite-dimensional $\mathfrak{sl}(2,\mathbb R)$ representations, which is not too difficult. A better way is to observe that any $\mathfrak{sl}(2,\mathbb R)$-representation $V$ embeds in an $\mathfrak{sl}(2,\mathbb C)$-representation $V \otimes \mathbb C$, but $\mathrm{SL}(2,\mathbb C)$ is simply connected, so $V \otimes \mathbb C$ is a representation of $\mathrm{SL}(2,\mathbb C)$, and so the $\mathrm{Mp}(2,\mathbb R)$-representation that gave rise to $V$ factors through $\mathrm{SL}(2,\mathbb C)$, and on the other hand the map $\mathrm{Mp}(2,\mathbb R) \to \mathrm{SL}(2,\mathbb C)$ factors through $\mathrm{SL}(2,\mathbb R)$ and is not faithful.

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  • $\begingroup$ Hi! Where can I read more about this concept of group representations factoring? $\endgroup$
    – Craig
    Commented Jun 26, 2023 at 20:19
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The answer of Theo seems to be right. Nevertheless, it is not explained that "the Mp(2,R)-representation that gave rise to V factors through SL(2,C) and on the other hand Mp(2,R) -> SL(2,C) factors through SL(2,R)". This cannot be true in general. E.g. in the case of SO(n) and Spin(n), i.e., when SL(2,R) is replaced by SO(n) and Mp(2,R) by Spin(n). Note that Spin(n,C) is (as SL(2,C)) simply connected as well (so topologically, it works). I think a bit incomplete part of the answer - for me - can be in factorizations related to the complexifications. (SO(n) is a compact real of SO(n,C), but SL(n,R) is split real of SL(n,C) - this should explain the difference bteween the SO and Sp-cases).

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    $\begingroup$ why is this an answer? this should be in the comments. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 7, 2015 at 9:55
  • $\begingroup$ I do not have reputation high enough. I should post is as an question and hope that it would not be linked to the asnwer I actually make a comment on, as You noticed. $\endgroup$
    – Svat Krysl
    Commented Dec 7, 2015 at 14:37
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for the explanation, Venkataramana above. Which book of Helgason is meant in the comment? $\endgroup$
    – Svat Krysl
    Commented Dec 8, 2015 at 11:39
  • $\begingroup$ There is a book by Helgason on "differential geometry, Lie Groups and symmetric spaces" and in one of the exercises in the latter chapters, this particular point is stressed. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 8, 2015 at 12:02
  • $\begingroup$ Don't you know a precise reference, please? $\endgroup$
    – Svat Krysl
    Commented Dec 11, 2015 at 17:47

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