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The $p$-adic field $\mathbb{Q}_p$ has topological basis of open sets of the form $a+p^N \mathbb{Z}_p$ for $0 \leq a \leq p^N-1$ and $N \in \mathbb{Z}$. These are indeed compact open sets. One can define Bernoulli distributions by $$\mu_{B,k}(a+p^N \mathbb{Z}_p)=p^{N(k-1)}B_k \left(\frac{a}{p^N}\right), $$ where $B_k(x)$ are Bernoulli polynomials and $B_k=B_k(0)$ are Bernoulli numbers.

These $\mu_{B,k}$ extends to a distribution on $\mathbb{Z}_p$. But these Bernoulli distributions $\mu_{B,k}$ do not define measure on $\mathbb{Z}_p$.

To integrate $p$-adic continuous functions over the compact open subsets $\mathbb{Z}_p$ or $\mathbb{Z}_p^{*}$.of $\mathbb{Q}_p$, one defines the regularized Bernoulli distribution by $$\mu_{k,\alpha}(U)=\mu_{B,k}(U)-\alpha^{-k}\mu_{B,k}(\alpha U)$$ for $\alpha \in \mathbb{Z}_p^{*}$, $k \in \{0\} \cup \mathbb{N}$ and $U=a+p^N \mathbb{Z}_p$.

For $k=1,2, \cdots$, we have the measures $ \mu_{1, \alpha}, \mu_{2,\alpha}, \cdots, \mu_{k, \alpha}, \cdots$. These measure or regularized Bernoulli distributions are related by the following relation $$\int_{\mathbb{Z}_p} f(x) d \mu_{k,\alpha}=\int_{\mathbb{Z}_p} f(x) \cdot kx^{k-1} d \mu_{1, \alpha},$$ for any continuous function $f: \mathbb{Z}_p \to \mathbb{Z}_p$.

This is all the story on $\mathbb{Q}_p$.

Now consider a finite extension $K$ of $\mathbb{Q}_p$. It has similar compact-open subsets $\mathcal{O}_K$, the ring of integers and topological basis consisting of open sets $a+\pi O_K$, where $\pi$ is the uniformizer in the ring $\mathcal{O}_K$.

My question-

Can we extend $\mu_{B,k}$ and $\mu_{k,\alpha}$ from $\mathbb{Z}_p$ to $\mathcal{O}_K$? $$-------------------------------$$ Clearly, we can define Haar measure normalized with $\mu(O_K)=1$ and so $\mu(m_K)=1/q$, where $m_K$ is the maximal ideal and $q=\lvert\mathcal{O}_K/m_K\rvert$.

Also we know that Haar measure $\mu$ coincide with the Bernoulli distribution $\mu_{B,k}$ for $k=0$.

So it appears trivially that we can define the Bernoulli distribution $\mu_{B,0}$ on the finite extension $K$ as it equals to Haar measure and which can be defined on any locally compact Hausdorff space $K$.

I appreciate any help. Thanks

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    $\begingroup$ The typesetting of text-in-math-in-text ($\text{like this}$) is very strange, so I restored it to just ordinary text (like this). If you'd like emphasis, you can italicise like this *like this* (or, as you observed, bold like this **like this**). $\endgroup$
    – LSpice
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    $\begingroup$ Sorry for my now-deleted comment, I wasn't precise. I am still not precise in my answer, but I hope that it may be helpful. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 28, 2021 at 10:16
  • $\begingroup$ @ChrisWuthrich, it is alright. I appreciate $\endgroup$
    – MAS
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    $\begingroup$ The reason why the (regularized) Bernoulli measure is interesting is because it packages together the values of the Riemann zeta function into some $p$-adic object. If you view it this way, then the "correct" generalisations are other kinds of p-adic measures interpolating values of L-functions (e.g. the p-adic zeta functions for totally-real number fields constructed by Deligne and Ribet). $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 28, 2021 at 16:40
  • $\begingroup$ Bernoulli distribution widely refers to a $(p,1-p)$ distribution. For this reason creating the tag bernoulli-distribution is likely to attract stuff that is quite irrelevant to this post. If you need a specific tag, you should make it more specific. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
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Here is why I doubt that the question has been looked at and why it is not well-formulated, but I am really not confident in saying this. If it has been considered, I'd hope someone corrects me here.

$\newcommand{\ZZ}{\mathbb{Z}}\newcommand{\QQ}{\mathbb{Q}}$ Let $\mu$ be a measure taking open subsets of a group $\Gamma$ to a ring $A$. In your case $\Gamma$ is isomorphic to $\ZZ_p^\times$ and $A$ is $\ZZ_p$ or $\QQ_p$ or $\mathbb{C}_p$. Conceptually for the Bernoulli distribution, $\Gamma$ is the Galois group of the global extension of $\QQ$ defined by adjoining all $p$-power roots of unity. This $\mu$ corresponds to an element of the Iwasawa Algebra $A[\![\Gamma]\!]$. In your case the measures using Bernoulli numbers link to the $p$-adic $L$-functions and zeta-functions, interpolating values of the classical complex $L$-functions and the Riemann zeta function.

A natural change of the group would be a surjection $\Gamma'\to \Gamma$ corresponding to a further extension of the number field. You could then ask to interpolate $L$-values for more characters of that group. That has been done to some extend and conjecturally we have a good picture of what the right extensions of $\mu$ should be.

In your situation, however, you have a larger group $\Gamma'=\mathcal{O}_K^\times$ that contains $\Gamma=\ZZ^\times_p$ where $K/\QQ_p$ is an extension. I changed the notation to emphasis that the maps $\mu$ really only see the group $\Gamma'$ rather than the ring of integers $\mathcal{O}_K$. As a group $\Gamma'$ is a direct product of a finite group and $\ZZ_p^{[K:\QQ_p]}$; up to the finite bit it won't depend much on $K$, but only on its degree. Since there is no subextension of $\QQ$, this $\Gamma\to\Gamma'$ cannot correspond to a global Galois extension and to $L$-values.

When you are asking for an extension, the most natural thing would be to take the surjection $\mu\circ N_{K/\QQ_p}$. This would now take $N=N_{K/\QQ_p}:\Gamma'\to \Gamma$ and the natural map $A[\![\Gamma]\!]\to A[\![\Gamma']\!]$. It still could not correspond to a larger extension of $\QQ$ as there are no such extensions. We would have to start with a larger number field $L$, but then the Bernoulli measures even for $\Gamma$ have to be changed depending on $L$. Up to the finite bit, your group $\Gamma'$ is the direct sum of $\Gamma$ and the group $\ker (N_{K/\QQ_p})$. That natural extension is then rather boring on this second group. Still ignoring the finite bits, you could more or less randomly choose a different measure on this second group as an extension, but I would not know what meaning to give to it.

(I said ignoring finite subgroups. There is a little interesting question as there are cases when $\Gamma'$ is not the direct product of $\Gamma$ and $\ker(N)$, which I have not thought about.)

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  • $\begingroup$ First, thanks for your answer. I appreciate it. It is rather more algebraic than analytic and thats why I need to digest fully before I make some queries. Quickly some comments, in your 2nd last para, you proposed a possible extension to be the composition $\mu \circ N$ of the measure $\mu$ and the norm map $N$ of the field extension. Do you mean $\mu$ to be the regularized Bernoulli measure here? In the 4th sentence of the same para, you mentioned that we would have to start with a larger number field $L$. please explain. Does $\mu$ extend for the quadratic extensions of $Q_2$ ? Thanks $\endgroup$
    – MAS
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    $\begingroup$ $\mu$ could be any of your $\mu_{\mathrm{?}}$. Does $\mu$ extend for the quadratic extensions of $\mathbb{Q}_2$? -> Sure, in many ways. As I said it is not clear what do you want from your extension from $\mathbb{Z}_2^\times$ to a rank $2$ module over $\mathbb{Z}_2$. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 8:09
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    $\begingroup$ Here is one the most interesting extension from $\mathbb{Z}_p$ to $\mathbb{Z}_p^2$ (another is mentioned in David's comment above): $L$ could be a quadratic imaginary number field, say $\mathbb{Q}(i)$. Take the corresponding elliptic curve $E$ with complex multiplication. Then let $\Gamma'$ be the extension obtained by adjoining all $p$-power torsion points of $E$. This is a rank $2$ module over $\mathbb{Z}_p$ and you could view it in a $\mathcal{O}_K$ for a $K$ that does not matter. Then the most interesting measure will come from elliptic units of $E$, which generalise Bernoullis, (cont...) $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 8:16
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    $\begingroup$ (...) in that they will interpolate values of $L$-functions of characters of abelian extensions of $L$. Hence the $p$-adic function will be linked to the characteristic ideal of some class groups of these extensions. It is conjectured (and sometimes known) that there is an interesting measure that produces $L$-values of abelian (and even non-abelian) $\Gamma'$ for all $L/\mathbb{Q}$. But it is not always as easy to write down as using Bernoulli numbers. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 8:18
  • $\begingroup$ thanks for your comments. To your 1st comment, my purpose is very similar to my question. I just want to integrate a p-adic continuous function $f(x)$ with respect to a measure $\mu$ over the compact open sets $U=a+\pi^n \mathcal{O}_K, \ \mathcal{O}_K, \ \mathcal{O}_K^{*}$ in such a way so that the $p$-adic integral $\int_U f(x) \cdot d \mu$ gives a relation with Bernoulli numbers $B_k$ or generalized Bernoulli numbers $B_{k, \chi}$ as in $\mu_{B,k}(a+p^n \mathbb{Z}_p)=p^{n(k-1)}B_k\left( \frac{a}{p^n} \right)$ or $\int_{\mathbb{Z}_p}x^k d \mu_{1, \alpha}=\frac{B_{k+1}}{k+1}(1-\alpha^{-k-1})$ $\endgroup$
    – MAS
    Commented Sep 29, 2021 at 11:40

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