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Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. DoesDo there exist a proper class ofexists arbitrarily large simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, isdo there a proper class ofexist arbitrarily large simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. IsDo there a proper class ofexist arbitrarily large simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$ -- or equivalently (I think) for which there are no nontrivial central extensions?

  4. Heck, what is one example of a simple nonabelian group $G$ with $H_2(G;\mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strengthening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.

Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. Does there exist a proper class of simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. Is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$ -- or equivalently (I think) for which there are no nontrivial central extensions?

  4. Heck, what is one example of a simple nonabelian group $G$ with $H_2(G;\mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strengthening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.

Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. Do there exists arbitrarily large simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, do there exist arbitrarily large simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. Do there exist arbitrarily large simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$ -- or equivalently (I think) for which there are no nontrivial central extensions?

  4. Heck, what is one example of a simple nonabelian group $G$ with $H_2(G;\mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strengthening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.

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Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. Does there exist a proper class of simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. Is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$ -- or equivalently (I think) for which there are no nontrivial central extensions?

  4. Heck, what is one example of a simple nonabelian group $G$ with $H_2(G;\mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strenghteningstrengthening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.

Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. Does there exist a proper class of simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. Is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strenghtening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.

Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. Does there exist a proper class of simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. Is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$ -- or equivalently (I think) for which there are no nontrivial central extensions?

  4. Heck, what is one example of a simple nonabelian group $G$ with $H_2(G;\mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strengthening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.

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Do there exist acyclic simple groups of arbitrarily large cardinality?

Recall that a group $G$ is acyclic if its group homology vanishes: $H_\ast(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$. Equivalently, $G$ is acyclic iff the space $BG$ is acyclic, i.e. $\tilde H_\ast(BG;\mathbb Z) = 0$.

In order to tie up a loose end over at this question, I wonder

Questions:

  1. Does there exist a proper class of simple acyclic groups?

  2. More generally, is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ such that there exists an acyclic space $X(G)$ with $\pi_1(X(G)) = G$?

  3. Is there a proper class of simple groups $G$ with $H_2(G; \mathbb Z) = 0$?

(2) is all I really need, for which (3) will suffice (see below); (1) is just a natural strenghtening.

Notes:

  1. There is a proper class of simple groups; e.g. the alternating group on any set is simple (though not acyclic).

  2. There are also acyclic spaces with arbitrarily large fundamental group, cf. Kan-Thurston, but the constructions I've seen don't produce spaces with simple fundamental group.

  3. In the comments at the above-linked question, Tom Goodwillie points out that a positive answer to (3) implies a positive answer to (2) by taking $X(G)$ to be the fiber of $BG \to BG^+$.

I've included the "model theory" and "logic" tags mostly because I suspect maybe the people who know the most about very large simple groups might just be logicians. But if these tags seem inappropriate, I wouldn't object too strongly to removing them.