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When confronted with finding an object that is maximal with regard to some ordering relation, allmost allmost of us have the reflex to use Zorn's Lemma.

I am interested in instances of proving the existence of maximal objects, where Zorn's Lemma is explicitly of no use. By that I mean that you can construct chains of objects similar to what you are looking at, and these chains have no upper bound -- but you can prove with other means that maximal objects still do exist. The only example that comes to mind is this, and I am interested in seeing other examples.

When confronted with finding an object that is maximal with regard to some ordering relation, allmost all of us have the reflex to use Zorn's Lemma.

I am interested in instances of proving the existence of maximal objects, where Zorn's Lemma is explicitly of no use. By that I mean that you can construct chains of objects similar to what you are looking at, and these chains have no upper bound -- but you can prove with other means that maximal objects still do exist. The only example that comes to mind is this, and I am interested in seeing other examples.

When confronted with finding an object that is maximal with regard to some ordering relation, most of us have the reflex to use Zorn's Lemma.

I am interested in instances of proving the existence of maximal objects, where Zorn's Lemma is explicitly of no use. By that I mean that you can construct chains of objects similar to what you are looking at, and these chains have no upper bound -- but you can prove with other means that maximal objects still do exist. The only example that comes to mind is this, and I am interested in seeing other examples.

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Maximality without Zorn

When confronted with finding an object that is maximal with regard to some ordering relation, allmost all of us have the reflex to use Zorn's Lemma.

I am interested in instances of proving the existence of maximal objects, where Zorn's Lemma is explicitly of no use. By that I mean that you can construct chains of objects similar to what you are looking at, and these chains have no upper bound -- but you can prove with other means that maximal objects still do exist. The only example that comes to mind is this, and I am interested in seeing other examples.