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@Willie Wong, so that animation (I though could help) finally confuse it all.. To understand what I want to ask, perhaps we shouldn't look at the red dot, I want to know the up-down axis speed of the wave, watching at the left side of the animation, you can see "first" left most pixel going up and down, this is the vertical speed I want to really calculate, and this speed is not zero even for a simple monochromatic traveling wave, thanks Willie