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Spent a month checking, this is what I suspect is the complete list of 'sporadic' or 'exceptional' pairs. No restriction that they be in the same genus or have the same discriminant. I was able to check discriminant ratio $4$ and discriminant ratio $1$ very high. The other ones just seem sort of random little sets, two quadruples (see the repeated forms). Also some patterns that dry up, discriminants $111,333,999$ but not $2997,$ also on the left $24, 72, 216, 648, 1944,$ but not $5832.$ This last begins with three pair of regular forms, I typed those in. The list of pairs of regular forms that agree is enormous.

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111 :   1   4     7   1  0  0       75 :  1   4     5   1  1  0
142 :   3   3     5   2  3  1       78 :  3   3     3   1  1  3
158 :   3   3     5  -1  2  1       78 :  3   3     3   1  1  3
158 :   3   3     5  -1  2  1      142 :  3   3     5   2  3  1
190 :   3   5     5   5  2  3       78 :  3   3     3   1  1  3
190 :   3   5     5   5  2  3      142 :  3   3     5   2  3  1
190 :   3   5     5   5  2  3      158 :  3   3     5  -1  2  1
213 :   2   4     7   0  1  1      177 :  2   4     7   4  2  1
216 :   2   4     8   4  1  1       54 :  2   2     4   1  2  0
232 :   3   5     5   3  1  3      232 :  3   3     7   1  2  1
284 :   3   5     6   4  2  2      156 :  3   3     5   2  2  0
316 :   3   5     6   0  2  2      156 :  3   3     5   2  2  0
316 :   3   5     6   0  2  2      284 :  3   5     6   4  2  2
333 :   3   4     7   1  0  0      225 :  3   4     7   4  3  3
380 :   3   5     7   2  0  2      156 :  3   3     5   2  2  0
380 :   3   5     7   2  0  2      284 :  3   5     6   4  2  2
380 :   3   5     7   2  0  2      316 :  3   5     6   0  2  2
567 :   4   6     7   3  2  3      324 :  4   4     6   0  3  2
639 :   5   5     8  -1  2  4      531 :  5   5     6   0  3  2
648 :   2   6    14   3  1  0      162 :  2   2    14   1  2  2
648 :   5   7     7   6  1  5      648 :  5   5     8   0  4  3
999 :   5   8     8  -5  1  4      675 :  5   5     8  -1  4  2
1944 :  2   6    41   3  1  0      486 :  2   2    41   1  2  2
2592 :  4   7    25  -4  2  2      648 :  4   7     7   5  2  2
These are pairs of positive quadratic forms that represent the
same numbers, and violate a Kaplansky conjecture.  

Delta : A B C R S T     means

f(x,y,z) = A x^2 + B y^2 + C z^2 + R y z + S z x + T x y,

and Delta = 4ABC + RST - A R^2 - B S^2 - C T^2.

The two pair within a genus each are
232 :   3   5     5   3  1  3      232 :  3   3     7   1  2  1
648 :   5   7     7   6  1  5      648 :  5   5     8   0  4  3

The most productive discriminant ratio  is 4, 
which includes Kap's two infinite families, also
 24 :   1   2     4   2  1  1        6 :  1   1     2   1  1  0  
 72 :   2   2     5   1  1  1       18 :  2   2     2   1  2  2
216 :   2   5     6   3  0  1       54 :  2   2     5   1  2  2 
648 :   2   6    14   3  1  0      162 :  2   2    14   1  2  2
1944 :  2   6    41   3  1  0      486 :  2   2    41   1  2  2
or
48N-24: 2   6    N    3  1  0     12N-6:  2   2     N   1  2  2  
where N = (1+ 3^k)/2, and the pairs for N = 1,2,5 are regular 
and have been Schiemann reduced.
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Reminder: Kap's two infinite families are equivalent to those 
below, which need not be "reduced." For the first, require
gcd(A,C) = 1 and 0 <A,C. For the second, gcd(A,R) = 1, with
A > 0 and  -A < R < 2 A.
  
4D : A    3A    C   0   0  0    D :   A   A   C    0    0    A

4D:  A  2A-R  2A+R  0  2R  0    D :   A   A   A    R    R    R

For the first, D = 3 A^2 C, for the second D = (A+R)(2A-R)^2 .

why not. The complete list of regular pairs, evidently 182 pairs among which various triples, quadruples and so on may be found. Smaller discriminant put first on the line, which is why i had to delete the colons :, to use Unix sort -n

    2       1    1    1    1    1    1       18       1    2    3    2    1    0
    2       1    1    1    1    1    1       32       1    2    4    0    0    0
    2       1    1    1    1    1    1        8       1    1    2    0    0    0
    3       1    1    1    0    0    1       12       1    1    3    0    0    0
    3       1    1    1    0    0    1       12       1    2    2    1    1    1
    3       1    1    1    0    0    1       21       1    2    3    0    0    1
    4       1    1    1    0    0    0       16       1    2    2    0    0    0
    4       1    1    1    0    0    0       36       1    2    5    2    0    0
    5       1    1    2    1    1    1       20       1    2    3    1    0    1
    5       1    1    2    1    1    1       20       1    2    3    2    0    0
    6       1    1    2    0    0    1       22       1    2    3    0    1    0
    6       1    1    2    0    0    1       24       1    2    3    0    0    0
    6       1    1    2    1    1    0       15       1    1    4    0    1    0
    6       1    1    2    1    1    0       24       1    1    6    0    0    0
    6       1    1    2    1    1    0       24       1    2    4    2    1    1
    6       1    1    2    1    1    0       33       1    2    5    1    1    1
    8       1    1    2    0    0    0       18       1    2    3    2    1    0
    8       1    1    2    0    0    0       32       1    2    4    0    0    0
    8       1    1    3    1    1    1       32       1    3    3    2    0    0
    8       1    1    3    1    1    1       72       1    3    7    2    1    1
    9       1    1    3    0    0    1       36       1    3    3    0    0    0
    9       1    1    3    0    0    1       36       1    3    4    3    1    0
    9       1    1    3    0    0    1       63       1    3    6    3    0    0
   10       1    2    2    2    1    1       15       1    2    2    1    0    0
   10       1    2    2    2    1    1       40       1    2    5    0    0    0
   12       1    1    3    0    0    0       12       1    2    2    1    1    1
   12       1    1    3    0    0    0       21       1    2    3    0    0    1
   12       1    1    4    0    0    1       48       1    3    4    0    0    0
   12       1    2    2    1    1    1       21       1    2    3    0    0    1
   12       1    2    2    2    0    0       44       1    2    6    2    0    0
   12       1    2    2    2    0    0       48       1    2    6    0    0    0
   14       1    1    5    1    1    1       30       1    3    3    1    1    1
   14       1    1    5    1    1    1       46       1    3    5    3    1    1
   14       1    1    5    1    1    1       56       1    3    5    2    0    0
   15       1    1    4    0    1    0       24       1    1    6    0    0    0
   15       1    1    4    0    1    0       24       1    2    4    2    1    1
   15       1    1    4    0    1    0       33       1    2    5    1    1    1
   15       1    2    2    1    0    0       40       1    2    5    0    0    0
   16       1    2    2    0    0    0       36       1    2    5    2    0    0
   18       1    1    6    0    0    1       72       1    3    6    0    0    0
   18       1    2    3    2    1    0       32       1    2    4    0    0    0
   18       2    2    2    1    2    2       45       2    2    3    0    0    1
   18       2    2    2    1    2    2       72       2    2    5    1    1    1
   18       2    2    2    1    2    2       72       2    3    3    0    0    0
   18       2    2    2    1    2    2       99       2    3    5    3    1    0
   20       1    1    7    1    1    1       80       1    3    7    2    0    0
   20       1    2    3    1    0    1       20       1    2    3    2    0    0
   22       1    2    3    0    1    0       24       1    2    3    0    0    0
   24       1    1    6    0    0    0       24       1    2    4    2    1    1
   24       1    1    6    0    0    0       33       1    2    5    1    1    1
   24       1    2    4    2    1    1       33       1    2    5    1    1    1
   25       2    2    2   -1    1    1      100       2    2    7   -1    1    1
   25       2    2    2   -1    1    1      100       2    3    5    0    0    2
   27       1    1    7    0    1    0       27       1    2    4    1    0    1
   27       1    1    9    0    0    1      108       1    3   10    3    1    0
   27       1    1    9    0    0    1      108       1    3    9    0    0    0
   27       1    1    9    0    0    1       27       1    3    3    3    0    0
   27       1    3    3    3    0    0      108       1    3   10    3    1    0
   27       1    3    3    3    0    0      108       1    3    9    0    0    0
   27       2    2    2    1    1    1      108       2    2    8    2    2    1
   27       2    2    2    1    1    1      108       2    3    5    0    2    0
   27       2    2    2    1    1    1      189       2    3    8    0    1    0
   28       2    2    3    2    2    2      112       2    3    5    2    0    0
   28       2    2    3    2    2    2       60       2    3    3    0    0    2
   28       2    2    3    2    2    2       92       2    3    5    2    0    2
   30       1    1   10    0    0    1      120       1    3   10    0    0    0
   30       1    3    3    1    1    1       46       1    3    5    3    1    1
   30       1    3    3    1    1    1       56       1    3    5    2    0    0
   32       1    3    3    2    0    0       72       1    3    7    2    1    1
   36       1    1   12    0    0    1      144       1    3   12    0    0    0
   36       1    3    3    0    0    0       36       1    3    4    3    1    0
   36       1    3    3    0    0    0       63       1    3    6    3    0    0
   36       1    3    4    3    1    0       63       1    3    6    3    0    0
   36       2    2    3    0    0    2      144       2    3    6    0    0    0
   44       1    2    6    2    0    0       48       1    2    6    0    0    0
   45       2    2    3    0    0    1       72       2    2    5    1    1    1
   45       2    2    3    0    0    1       72       2    3    3    0    0    0
   45       2    2    3    0    0    1       99       2    3    5    3    1    0
   46       1    3    5    3    1    1       56       1    3    5    2    0    0
   48       1    4    4    4    0    0      192       1    4   12    0    0    0
   50       1    4    4    3    1    1      200       1    5   10    0    0    0
   50       1    4    4    3    1    1       75       1    4    5    0    0    1
   54       1    1   18    0    0    1      216       1    3   18    0    0    0
   54       1    4    4    2    1    1      216       1    6    9    0    0    0
   54       1    4    4    2    1    1      297       1    6   13    3    1    0
   54       2    2    5    1    2    2      135       2    5    5    5    1    2
   54       2    2    5    1    2    2      216       2    5    6    0    0    2
   54       2    2    5    1    2    2      216       2    5    6    3    0    1
   54       2    2    5    1    2    2      297       2    5    8   -2    1    1
   54       2    3    3    3    0    0      216       2    3    9    0    0    0
   60       1    4    5    4    1    0      132       1    5    7    1    0    1
   60       1    4    5    4    1    0       96       1    4    7    4    0    0
   60       2    2    5    0    0    2      240       2    5    6    0    0    0
   60       2    3    3    0    0    2      112       2    3    5    2    0    0
   60       2    3    3    0    0    2       92       2    3    5    2    0    2
   64       3    3    3   -2    2    2      256       3    3    8    0    0    2
   64       3    3    3   -2    2    2      576       3    3   19   -2    2    2
   72       2    2    5    1    1    1       72       2    3    3    0    0    0
   72       2    2    5    1    1    1       99       2    3    5    3    1    0
   72       2    3    3    0    0    0       99       2    3    5    3    1    0
   75       1    4    5    0    0    1      200       1    5   10    0    0    0
   80       3    3    3    2    2    2      320       3    4    7    0    2    0
   90       1    1   30    0    0    1      360       1    3   30    0    0    0
   92       2    3    5    2    0    2      112       2    3    5    2    0    0
   96       1    4    7    4    0    0      132       1    5    7    1    0    1
   98       3    3    3   -1    1    1      392       3    5    7    0    0    2
  100       2    2    7   -1    1    1      100       2    3    5    0    0    2
  100       3    3    3    1    1    1      400       3    5    7    0    2    0
  108       1    1   36    0    0    1      432       1    3   36    0    0    0
  108       1    3    9    0    0    0      108       1    3   10    3    1    0
  108       1    4    7    0    1    0      108       1    5    7    5    1    1
  108       1    6    6    6    0    0      432       1    6   18    0    0    0
  108       2    2    8    2    2    1      108       2    3    5    0    2    0
  108       2    2    8    2    2    1      189       2    3    8    0    1    0
  108       2    2    9    0    0    2      432       2    6    9    0    0    0
  108       2    3    5    0    2    0      189       2    3    8    0    1    0
  108       3    3    5    3    3    3      432       3    5    8    4    0    0
  135       2    5    5    5    1    2      216       2    5    6    0    0    2
  135       2    5    5    5    1    2      216       2    5    6    3    0    1
  135       2    5    5    5    1    2      297       2    5    8   -2    1    1
  144       3    4    4    4    0    0      576       3    4   12    0    0    0
  150       2    5    5    5    0    0      600       2    5   15    0    0    0
  180       2    2   15    0    0    2      720       2    6   15    0    0    0
  180       3    5    5    5    3    3      288       3    5    5    2    0    0
  180       3    5    5    5    3    3      396       3    5    8    2    0    3
  192       1    8    8    8    0    0      704       1    8   24    8    0    0
  192       1    8    8    8    0    0      768       1    8   24    0    0    0
  196       3    5    5   -4    2    2      784       3    5   14    0    0    2
  216       1    6    9    0    0    0      297       1    6   13    3    1    0
  216       2    5    6    0    0    2      216       2    5    6    3    0    1
  216       2    5    6    0    0    2      297       2    5    8   -2    1    1
  216       2    5    6    3    0    1      297       2    5    8   -2    1    1
  240       1    4   16    4    0    0      384       1    4   24    0    0    0
  256       3    3    8    0    0    2      576       3    3   19   -2    2    2
  270       3    3   11    3    3    3     1080       3    9   11    6    0    0
  288       3    5    5    2    0    0      396       3    5    8    2    0    3
  300       1   10   10   10    0    0     1200       1   10   30    0    0    0
  384       4    4    7    0    4    0      528       4    7    7    6    0    4
  400       3    7    7   -6    2    2     1600       3    7   20    0    0    2
  432       1   12   12   12    0    0     1728       1   12   36    0    0    0
  432       5    5    5   -2    2    2     1728       5    8   12    0    0    4
  448       5    5    5    2    2    2     1472       5    8   12    8    4    0
  448       5    5    5    2    2    2     1792       5    8   12    0    4    0
  448       5    5    5    2    2    2      960       5    5   12   -4    4    2
  450       5    5    6    0    0    5     1800       5    6   15    0    0    0
  540       5    5    8    2    4    5     1188       5    8    9    6    3    2
  540       5    5    8    2    4    5      864       5    8    8    8    2    4
  540       6    6    7    6    6    6     2160       6    7   13    2    0    0
  576       3    8    8    8    0    0     2304       3    8   24    0    0    0
  704       1    8   24    8    0    0      768       1    8   24    0    0    0
  720       3    8    8    4    0    0     1152       3    8   12    0    0    0
  768       1   16   16   16    0    0     3072       1   16   48    0    0    0
  864       5    8    8    8    2    4     1188       5    8    9    6    3    2
  900       3   10   10   10    0    0     3600       3   10   30    0    0    0
  960       5    5   12   -4    4    2     1472       5    8   12    8    4    0
  960       5    5   12   -4    4    2     1792       5    8   12    0    4    0
  960       5    8    8    8    0    0     3840       5    8   24    0    0    0
 1024       3   11   11  -10    2    2     4096       3   11   32    0    0    2
 1152       5    5   12    0    0    2     1584       5    5   17   -2    2    2
 1280       7    7    7   -2    2    2     5120       7   12   16    0    0    4
 1350       7    7    7   -1    1    1     5400       7   13   15    0    0    2
 1472       5    8   12    8    4    0     1792       5    8   12    0    4    0
 1728       1   24   24   24    0    0     6912       1   24   72    0    0    0
 1728       8    8    9    0    0    8     6912       8    9   24    0    0    0
 2160       5    8   17    8    2    4     3456       5    8   24    0    0    4
 2304       3   16   16   16    0    0     9216       3   16   48    0    0    0
 2700       9   11   11   -8    6    6    10800       9   11   30    0    0    6
 2880       8    8   15    0    0    8    11520       8   15   24    0    0    0
 3136       3   19   19  -18    2    2    12544       3   19   56    0    0    2
 3456       8   11   11   -2    4    4     4752       8   11   15    6    0    4
 4800       1   40   40   40    0    0    19200       1   40  120    0    0    0
 6144      11   11   16    8    8    6     8448      11   11   19    2    2    6
 6144       7   15   16    0    0    6     8448       7   15   23   -6    2    6
 6400       3   27   27  -26    2    2    25600       3   27   80    0    0    2
 6912       1   48   48   48    0    0    27648       1   48  144    0    0    0
 6912       9   17   17  -14    6    6    27648       9   17   48    0    0    6
 8640      13   13   13    2    2    2    34560      13   24   28    0    4    0
14400       3   40   40   40    0    0    57600       3   40  120    0    0    0
18432      17   17   20   -4    4   14    25344      17   20   20   -8    4    4
18432       5   20   48    0    0    4    25344       5   20   68   -8    4    4
43200       9   41   41  -38    6    6   172800       9   41  120    0    0    6
55296      11   32   44  -16    4    8    76032      11   32   59    8   10    8

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