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In a recent Quanta article about the 9th Dedekind number, Dedekind is credited with the first formal definition of infinity.

Is this an accurate attribution?

Folklore where I’m from dictates that Georg Cantor is the father of modern infinity, but they were alive and working concurrently and I’m not familiar enough with either mathematician’s body of work to pin down when he first proposed a formal definition of infinity. Any assistance is appreciated.

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    $\begingroup$ What makes a definition "formal"? $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 3, 2023 at 3:33
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    $\begingroup$ WHICH definition of infinity you have in mind? This term is used in mathematics in many different senses. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 3, 2023 at 12:31
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    $\begingroup$ Formal languages are a relatively late development. Even Russell and Whitehead's Principia Mathematica was not fully formal by modern standards, as Gödel pointed out. Frege's system was famously vulnerable to Russell's paradox, so maybe that doesn't count either. In any case, formal definitions of infinity in this sense came later than either Dedekind or Cantor, and therefore shifts the emphasis of your question from the word "infinity" to the word "formal". By the way, most definitions in mathematics have never been formally stated in this sense. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 3, 2023 at 12:34
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    $\begingroup$ This question definitely belongs on hsm.stackexchange.com instead of here. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 3, 2023 at 18:07
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    $\begingroup$ @HollisWilliams, the existence of the math-history tag indicates that MO is not only for contemporary research-level questions, or at least "contemporary research-level questions" should be interpreted broadly to include whatever the professional mathematicians at MO are interested in. I think it would be reasonable to vote to re-open the question. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 9:49

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Dedekind actually in effect gave two different definitions of infinity.

Namely, first, as is well known, a set is Dedekind infinite if it is equinumerous with a proper subset of itself.

But second, Dedekind proved the famous categoricity result for the natural numbers, showing that the natural-number structure of the successor operation $\langle\mathbb{N},0,S\rangle$ is characterized up to isomorphism by the properties (1) zero is not a sucessor; (2) the successor operation is one-to-one; and (3) every number is generated from zero by successor, in the sense that if $X$ is a set with $0\in X$ and $n\in X\implies Sn\in X$, then every number is in $X$. This (second-order) theory is now known as Dedekind arithmetic, and Dedekind showed how to undertake definition by recursion and thereby to develop all the usual number theory and arithmetic in this structure. Peano famously provided a hugely successful and quite elegant development of the theory on the basis of Dedekind's axioms, and these days the theory is often attributed to Peano, even though Peano credits Dedekind.

The point is that the categoricity result defines what it means to be finite — a set is (numerically) finite if it is equinumerous with the predecessors of a natural number. A set is infinite, accordingly, if it is not finite.

It seems to me that Dedekind probably believed that his two definitions were equivalent, and indeed they are provably equivalent in ZFC. Nevertheless, we now know that this requires the axiom of choice (countable choice suffices), and it is consistent with ZF that there are numerically infinite sets that are Dedekind finite. It is the second definition (numerically infinite) that is usually taken as the right choice in contemporary mathematics.

Finally, let me mention my essay, Equinumerosity and the definition of finiteness, in which I discuss Aristotle, Galileo, Frege, Dedekind, Cantor, Tarski and others on the meaning of finiteness. Further discussion in my essay Potential versus actual infinity, which is freely available, and which brings in Archimedes, as well as ultrafinitism and the contemporary modal analysis of potentialism.

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    $\begingroup$ Very cool as always Joel, thank you; I agree with the assertion that any putative definition $\varphi$ of what 'finite' means implicitly offers a definition $\neg\varphi$ of 'infinite', and in this sense all the people mentioned in your essay have been implicitly considering what 'infinity' means via negation. This connection between the finite and infinite is obvious once pointed out, and a prime example of why I love MO! $\endgroup$
    – Alec Rhea
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    $\begingroup$ One nitpick: the equivalence of not-finite and Dedekind-infinite doesn't require the whole axiom of choice, but a fragment of countable choice... see eg math.stackexchange.com/questions/3985461/… (otherwise, nice to see you here again, Joel). $\endgroup$
    – David Roberts
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  • $\begingroup$ @DavidRoberts Yes, countable choice suffices. (And thanks for the welcome!) $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 12:59
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    $\begingroup$ An important detail: the notion we now call "Dedekind infinite" was proposed by Dedekind as an example of a bad (but correct) definition of infinity. Dedekind himself very much preferred the "numerically infinite" definition. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 5, 2023 at 15:27
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    $\begingroup$ I think it is one of the magical, and yet disturbing, aspects of mathematics that the natural definition of finite requires us to implicitly understand what "all the subsets of N" means. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 5, 2023 at 18:15
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The article is probably referring to Dedekind's Was sind und was sollen die Zahlen of 1888, in which point 64 is Dedekind's definition of infinite. This of course is after Cantor had been investigating various infinities for several years, though I'm not sure where Cantor made a formal definition.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you, I realized while reading your post that I’m not familiar enough with Cantor’s work to say when he first wrote down what might amount to a formal definition either; I’ll edit the question accordingly. $\endgroup$
    – Alec Rhea
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    $\begingroup$ @AlecRhea : The preface of that Dedekind monograph actually cites Cantor’s 1878 Beitrag zur Mannigfaltigkeitslehre, which I think is the first appearance of the concept of different set “cardinalities” as defined via bijection. But I don’t recall it containing a formal definition of infinity per se. $\endgroup$
    – NikS
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The idea that infinite sets, if they existed, would admit 1-1 correspondences with their proper parts was well understood already in the 17th century, and were the reason such sets were rejected as contradictory. Dedekind's insight was to turn a contradiction into a definition. Cantor's work certainly prepared the ground for Dedekind turning the tables on the old contradiction.

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  • $\begingroup$ Very interesting, any chance you can pin down dates precisely for Cantor (or point in a direction where I might be able to)? $\endgroup$
    – Alec Rhea
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In the preface of the second edition of Was sind und was sollen die Zahlen Dedekind mentions another definition of `finite': a set $S$ is called finite if there is a map $\varphi$ from $S$ to itself such that $S$ itself is the only non-empty set that is closed under $\varphi$.

He investigated this definition in Zweite definition (1889. 3. 9) des Endlichen und Unendlichen. In a note at the end Emmy Noether shows that this notion corresponds to what Joel calls (numerically) finite and that $\varphi$ is a cyclic permutation of $S$.

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Aristotle gave two definitions - possibly three - and probably not 'formally' as you would like it. Nevertheless, they have definitions.

The infinite is described as something without end, ie it is not finite which is what the word itself implies and presumably where the word can be traced back to. And he distinguished two different cases - the potential infinite and the actual infinite. I suspect it is the latter that fed into Cantor's semi-mystical notion of the absolute infinite.

He also distinguished this from the All - of which I would write more if I could remember what he wrote. But it's been sometime since I read his Physics/Metaphysics.

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    $\begingroup$ Mozibur, there is certainly a variety of opinions in the mathematical community with regard to the notion of an infinite set, with some that consider it semi-mystical and others who take it for granted as part of a traditional formalisation of the foundations of mathematics. But Alec Rhea's question concerns the notion of an infinite set as it was developed by Cantor and Dedekind, which is an issue separate from the question whether such a notion is mystical or otherwise. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 10:13
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    $\begingroup$ You seem to be changing the meaning of the terms. This is fine so long as you acknowledge it, but without explanation it doesn't make a good impression. Let's take a simple example. The set $\mathbb N$ of natural numbers is generally considered to be an actually infinite set. Its mathematical existence doesn't follow from general philosophical principles, but rather from the axiom of infinity of Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory. Certainly one can include it in a larger set, but this is generally not considered a reason to refrain from calling it an actually infinite set... $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 11:41
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    $\begingroup$ @Losif Pinelus: No, it is not about terminology. You're mistaken. A complete or actual infinity is one that cannot have a successor in any sense. If you think I'm mistaken, then please explain why Cantor thought it important to think up the notion of an absolute infinity - which is all but an actual or complete infinity in all but name. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 13:36
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    $\begingroup$ @losif Pinelis: The reason why that isn't taught in mathematical concept is because it resists mathematisation, for obvious reasons, as Cantor realised. Thus mathematicians ignore and trip over it when they come across it. It's a mathematico-philosophical construct. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 13:38
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    $\begingroup$ @Mikhail Katz: The axiom of infinity in ZFC is only the first axiom of infinity. There is a whole sequence of ever larger 'infinities', but none of them are complete infinities in Aristotle's term, simply because there is a succesor. I don't see why this obvious point is so hard to see. Instead of looking clearly you are retreating into formalism. I am not "changing the meaning of terms" as you put but simply using Aristotle terms in ways that are novel to you but obviously are strongly motivated by his philosophy. After all, would Newton recog ise Newtonian mechanics today? Of course not. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 4, 2023 at 13:46

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