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$\DeclareMathOperator\codim{codim}$Let $X=V(I)$, $Y=V(J)$ be two affine varieties. I'd like to know possibile strategies to understand when their schematic intersection, i.e. $X\cap Y=V(I+J)$, is reduced. I am aware that reduceness is equivalent to Serre's conditions $R_0$+$S_1$ (at least under Noetherian hypothesis), but I don't really know how to use them efficiently, at least in my specific case. More precisely, the case I am interested in is the following:

Let $V=\mathbb A^{2n}$ be an even dimensional vector space, let $X$ be an half dimensional vector subspace and let $Y=\bigcup_i Y_i \cup \bigcup_j Z_j$, where each $Y_i$, $Z_j$ is again a half dimensional vector subspace of $V$ (the reason for using different notations for them will become clear).

In general, $X\cap Y$ is not reduced: for example it's easy to see that, if $X=V(y-x)$ is the diagonal and $Y=V(xy)$ is the cross inside $\mathbb A^2$, then $X\cap Y=V(x^2, y-x)$ is not reduced…so one certainly needs to put more assumptions on $X,Y$.

I'd like to know if the following two assumptions are actually enough to ensure reduceness for $X\cap Y$:

(i) The $X\cap Y_i$'s are all distinct subspaces, of codimension 1 in $X$.

(ii) For each $Z_j$, there exists at least one $Y_i$ such that $X\cap Z_j \subsetneq X\cap Y_i$ (in particular, $\codim_X X\cap Z_j\geq 2$).

My intuition is that such an intersection should be at least generically reduced, namely reduced outside the closed locus $\bigcup_j X\cap Z_j$, and I hope these conditions are enough to ensure that nothing bad happens even inside such a locus, but I don't know how to prove that (basically I don't know how to exclude embedded primes).

P.S. If this turns out to be actually false, anyway I'd be interested to know which sort of other ‘reasonable’ conditions on the $Y_i$'s and $Z_j$'s could ensure reducedness of such an intersection.

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  • $\begingroup$ Good question. At a wild guess, you might need to assume some independence, that any $m$ of the $Y$'s intersect with $X$ in codimension $m$. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 6, 2023 at 14:42
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for the answer! But why would that actually be sufficient? Why having such a condition on the $Y_i$'s would allow me to not care at all about the $Z_j$'s? $\endgroup$
    – Utf
    Commented Feb 6, 2023 at 15:17
  • $\begingroup$ Oh, I don't claim it's sufficient. You might need a similar condition on all subsets of the $Z$'s. Even then, will it be sufficient? I'm not sure. In fact I don't know with certainty that the conditions you listed aren't already sufficient - I just have a hunch that they aren't. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 6, 2023 at 19:42
  • $\begingroup$ Sorry, you can ignore my comments (and perhaps I will delete them after a while). I misunderstood your question, and I was intersecting the components of $Y$, instead of taking their union. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 9, 2023 at 20:52

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It seems to me that if there are no $Z$'s, then this works. Indeed, both $X$ and the $Y_i$ are linear spaces, so the intersection $X\cap Y$ is just a union of pairwise different linear spaces, so it is reduced. I think one could write down this with equations.

However, adding the $Z_i$'s is problematic. I think the following example works: Let $Y=Z(xz,xt,yz,yt)\subseteq \mathbb A^4$. Then $Y=Y_1\cup Z_1$, where $Y_1=Z(z,t)$ and $Z_1=Z(x,y)$. Further let $X=Z(y-z,t)$. Then $X\cap Y_1=Z(y,z,t)$, a hyperplane in $X$ and $X\cap Z_1=Z(x,y,z,t)$, which is contained, but not equal to $X\cap Y_1$. Finally, $X\cap Y=Z(xy,y^2,y-z,t)$ is not reduced.

Here is also a theoretical reason for this example. (This had been the motivation behind my previous attempts at giving an example. In fact, this is essentially the first example I gave, but it didn't work, because I tried to do it without the Z's). Anyway the point is, that $Y$ is a simple example of a union of linear spaces that is not $S_2$. A hyperplane section of something that's not $S_2$ is not $S_1$, so cannot be reduced. The only trick is to figure out how to choose $X$, so its intersection with $Y$ is actually a hyperplane cut of $Y$.

Finally, a little nit picking: $\mathbb A^n$ is not a vectorspace, nor are the $X$, the $Y_i$'s and the $Z_i$. They are affine spaces. If you want to say that they all share a common point, then say that.

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  • $\begingroup$ Dear @SándorKovács thanks a lot for your answer (the very last tip included :)), which actually gives a counterexample to what I was (way too optimistically) hoping to be true. Nevertheless, if I correctly understood what you said, I'd say that this is not a counterexample having only $Y$'s components: in fact $Y=Z(z,t)$ certainly intersects $X=Z(x-z,t)$ in a line, but $Z=Z(x,y)$ intersects it just in a point. So, how should I modify the condition you suggested accordingly? Should it become something like $Y_i\cap Z_j \nsubseteq X$ $\forall i,j$? $\endgroup$
    – Utf
    Commented Feb 8, 2023 at 20:48
  • $\begingroup$ Hi @Utf, you're right, the example I gave didn't work, but I think it does now. In fact, this was the example I first came up with (when I still remembered to check condition (i)), but then I tried to simplify it.... As for the condition that might work: yes, I think that has a good chance. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 8, 2023 at 20:55
  • $\begingroup$ actually I am confused about your new example...I think now both components of $Y$ intersect $X$ in a single point, which is the same for both. So this would be no more a counterexample to my question, since it does not satisfy the condition $(i)$ that I put (the codimensions are not $1$, and more importantly the two intersections are not distinct). According to my intuition (which may be easily wrong, as you had just proven), it should not be possible to find a counterexample having just $Y$'s components, i.e. components satisfying condition $(i)$. $\endgroup$
    – Utf
    Commented Feb 8, 2023 at 21:33
  • $\begingroup$ @Utf, what do you think of this new example? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 10, 2023 at 8:19
  • $\begingroup$ Hi @SándorKovács: I'd say this new example is actually again a counterexample to my optimistic guess (indeed it is pretty similar to the very first counterexample that you gave me). Thanks for realizing me that my conditions were not enough, I am now trying to understand if my setting actually fulfills also the condition that you hinted as possibly sufficient, namely $Y_i \cap Z_j \nsubseteq X$. Could you just explain me a bit more why this condition should be enough to ensure that $X\cap (\bigcup_i Y_i\cup\bigcup_j Z_j)$ is reduced? What kind of argument should I use to prove that? $\endgroup$
    – Utf
    Commented Feb 12, 2023 at 22:49

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