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Let $R$ be a commutative ring with identity and $A$ and $B$ be two proper ideals of $R$ such that $A+B=R$ and for each $r^2=r\in R$ we have either $r\not\in A$ or $r-1\not\in B$. How can we prove the existance of two maximal ideals $m_1$ and $m_2$ of $R$ such that $A\subseteq m_1$, $B\subseteq m_2$ and $\{r\in m_1\mid r^2=r\}=\{r\in m_2\mid r^2=r\}$?

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    $\begingroup$ Do you know this to be true, or are you conjecturing it? If you know it, how? If you are conjecturing it, why? $\endgroup$
    – LSpice
    Commented Aug 13, 2021 at 16:45

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Sketch: First, if $e$ is an idempotent in $A$, show that $B$ can be replaced with $B+Re$, and the hypotheses still holds. Use this to reduce to the case that $A$ and $B$ contain the same idempotents.

Second, if $e$ is an idempotent of $R$ with $e,1-e\notin A$ (and hence also not in $B$) show that we can replace $A$ and $B$ with the new pair $A+Re$ and $B+Re$, still satisfying the same conditions. Use this to reduce to the case that $A$ and $B$ contain the same idempotents, and either an idempotent or its complement belongs to $A$.

Now, extend to any maximal ideals containing $A$ and $B$, and note that a maximal ideal cannot contain an idempotent and its complement at the same time.

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  • $\begingroup$ In the first case, in each step you use an idempotent of $A$ to make the ideal $B+Re$. If the idempotents of $A$ that are not in $B$ are infinitely many , how does your argument work? The same question can be stated for the second case. Please, explain a little more> $\endgroup$
    – Antony
    Commented Aug 15, 2021 at 9:10
  • $\begingroup$ As Keith mentioned, "satisfying the conditions" respects Zorn's lemma. (Alternatively, you can just directly show that $B$ can be replaced by $B+\sum_e Re$ where the sum is over idempotents in $A$.) $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 0:28
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A proof by duality (to make it accurate first replace $A$ and $B$ with their radicals).

The dual statement about $X=\operatorname{Spec}(R)$ is that we have two closed sets $Y$, $Z$ with $Y\cap Z=\varnothing$ and, for any clopen $C$ of $X$, either $Y\nsubseteq C$ or $Z\nsubseteq(X\setminus C)$. The conclusion is there are closed points $y\in Y$, $z\in Z$ such that $y$ and $z$ cannot be separated by a clopen.

Indeed the hypothesis just means that $Y$ and $Z$ cannot be separated by clopens. Their images in $\pi_0(X)$ are closed subsets of a Stone space that cannot be separated by clopens, so must meet. This provides a connected closed set $T$ meeting both $Y$ and $Z$. Then take any closed points $y\in Y\cap T$, $z\in Z\cap T$.

Remark. Most likely spectrality can be substantially weakened here. We have only used that $X\to\pi_0(X)$ is closed, that $\pi_0(X)$ is zero-dimensional and normal, and that every closed set of $X$ contains a closed point.

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Let me add some detail to Pace's sketch.

Let's say that a pair $(A,B)$ of ideals of $R$ satisfies the conditions if

(i) $A$ and $B$ are proper,
(ii) $A+B=R$,
(iii) there is no idempotent $e$ in $A$ whose complementary idempotent $1-e$ lies in $B$.

[Before beginning, note that Condition (i) follows from Condition (iii): using Condition (iii) and the fact that both $A$ and $B$ contain $0$, derive that neither $A$ nor $B$ can contain $1$.]

Lemma. If $(A,B)$ satisfies the conditions and $e\in A$ is idempotent, then $(A,B+Re)$ satisfies the conditions.

Pf. We establish Condition (iii) for $(A,B+Re)$ by reducing it to Condition (iii) for $(A,B)$. Assume that $f$ is an idempotent in $A$ whose complementary idempotent $1-f$ belongs to $B+Re$. Multiplying the expression ``$(1-f)\in B+Re$'' by $1-e$ yields that $(1-e)(1-f)\in B(1-e)+Re(1-e)=B(1-e)\subseteq B$, so the idempotent $(1-e)(1-f)$ belongs to $B$. But now, since $e, f\in A$, we have that the idempotent $1-(1-e)(1-f)=e+f-ef\in A$, while its complement lies in $B$. This contradicts Condition (iii) for $(A,B)$.

Condition (ii) for $(A,B+Re)$ holds because $B+Re$ extends $B$. \\\

Lemma. If $A$ and $B$ contain the same idempotents, $(A,B)$ satisfies the conditions, and $e$ is an idempotent with $e, 1-e\notin A$, then $(A+Re,B+Re)$ satisfies the conditions.

Pf. Let me argue only Condition (iii), since (i) is a consequence of (iii) and (ii) is obvious here.

Assume that there is some idempotent $f\in A+Re$ whose complementary idempotent $1-f$ lies in $B+Re$. Multiply the expressions $f\in A+Re$ and $(1-f)\in B+Re$ by $1-e$. We get $(1-e)f\in A(1-e)+Re(1-e)=A(1-e)\subseteq A$, and $(1-e)(1-f)\in B(1-e)\subseteq B$. Now, since we have assumed that $A$ and $B$ contain the same idempotents, and the idempotent $(1-e)f$ belongs to $A$, we must have $(1-e)f\in B$. Since both $(1-e)f, (1-e)(1-f)$ belong to $B$, the sum $(1-e)f+(1-e)(1-f)=1-e$ belongs to $B$, contrary to the assumptions of the lemma ($A$ and $B$ contain the same idempotents and $1-e\notin A$). \\\

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    $\begingroup$ Since the OP didn't include any details about the context or his own thoughts (it may even be homework, who knows), less detailed answers are probably preferable. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 14, 2021 at 18:05
  • $\begingroup$ @Keith Kearnes: As I commented above, how does your argument work in the second lemma when the set $\{e^2=e\in R\mid e\not\in A\text{ }\text{and} \text{ } 1-e\not\in A\}$ is an infinite set? your Lemma works for finitely many steps! Please explain a little more. $\endgroup$
    – Antony
    Commented Aug 15, 2021 at 9:14
  • $\begingroup$ @Antony: Use Zorn's Lemma. Order the pairs $(A,B)$ which satisfy the conditions by $(A,B)\sqsubseteq (X,Y)$ if $A\subseteq X$ and $B\subseteq Y$. This set is inductively ordered. Any $(A,B)$ satisfying the conditions can be extended to a maximal pair $(A',B')$ satisfying the conditions. Using Lemma 1, one can show that $A'$ and $B'$ have the same idempotents. Using Lemma 2, one can show that for any idempotent $e\in R$, either $e$ is in both $A'$ and $B'$ or $1-e$ is in both $A'$ and $B'$. Then, following Pace's sketch, if $(A',B')$ is a maximal pair, then $A'$ and $B'$ must be maximal ideals. $\endgroup$ Commented Aug 15, 2021 at 15:38

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