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First, we define a sequence $t_{1},t_{2},\cdots,t_{k}$ of n-tuples dicksonian, if $\forall 1\leq i < j\leq k,$ there does not exist a non-negative n-tuple t such that $t_{i}+t=t_{j}.$ For example, any lexicographically decreasing sequnence is dicksonian. By Dickson's lemma, every dicksonian sequence is finite. Let $(a_{1}^{1},\cdots,a_{n}^{1}),(a_{1}^{2},\cdots,a_{n}^{2}),\cdots,(a_{1}^{k},\cdots,a_{n}^{k})$ be a dicksonian sequence of n-tuples of non-negative integers such that $\sum_{i=1}^{n}(a_{i}^{j})=f(j)$ for all $j,1\leq j\leq k,$ where $f: \mathbb{Z} _{\geq0} \rightarrow \mathbb{Z} _{\geq0}$ is a fixed function.

Note that in the paper, "G. Moreno Socias, An Ackermannian polynomial ideal" it actually considered the maximal length of a dicksonian sequence such that $f(1)=d,f(i+1)=f(i)+1,\forall i\geq 1$, and this result is represented as a Ackermann function. Considering the characteristic of the dicksonian sequence satisfying the requirement with the maximal length with $n=3,d=3,$ given at the end of this paper, I want to ask the following question:

What is the possible maximal length for a dickson sequence such that $f(1)=d,f(i+1)=f(i)+1,\forall i\geq 1$, and the sum of the first two entries of every n-tuple in this dicksonian sequence is a fixed number, say m.?

Note that the position of the two entries with a fixed sum in a n-tuple may further affect the final result, I may further ask the following question:

What is the possible maximal length for a dickson sequence such that $f(1)=d,f(i+1)=f(i)+1,\forall i\geq 1$, and the sum of the two entries at position $i_0,j_0, 1\leq i_0\lt j_0\leq n$ of every n-tuple in this dicksonian sequence is a fixed number, say m.?

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  • $\begingroup$ Why is the Tex not completely displayed? $\endgroup$
    – Jiang
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 5:18
  • $\begingroup$ Also, isn't $1 \leq i{\geq 0}$ a bit redundant? $\endgroup$
    – user5810
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 5:40
  • $\begingroup$ I don't understand the question. Is the Socias paper available somewhere? $\endgroup$ Commented May 6, 2011 at 6:28
  • $\begingroup$ @Ricky Demer, I have finally made the Tex displayed completely. $\endgroup$
    – Jiang
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 9:42
  • $\begingroup$ @Gerry Myerson, the paper can be found here:springerlink.com/content/y36195n14590l4l3. Note that the author first reduced his question to considering only monomial polynomial ideals, then the total degree of $p_d,p_{d+1},\cdots,$ increased by 1 each step. $\endgroup$
    – Jiang
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 9:48

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I lack the rep to comment. This paper may help with the calculations.

Ackermannian and Primitive-Recursive Bounds with Dickson's Lemma http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.2989

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks Vijay, I have not met this paper before. $\endgroup$
    – Jiang
    Commented May 6, 2011 at 9:57

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