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$(\Omega, \mathcal{F}, P)$ is a probability space. $X$ is a r.v. defined on it, and $\mathcal{G}_1, \mathcal{G}_2$ are two $\sigma$-algebra, can we claim the following: $$ \mathbb{E}\{\mathbb{E}[X|\mathcal{G}_1]|\mathcal{G}_2\}=\mathbb{E}\{\mathbb{E}[X|\mathcal{G}_2]|\mathcal{G}_1\}=\mathbb{E}[X|\mathcal{G}_1\cap\mathcal{G}_2]. $$ If this is not true, why the following is true: $X_1,X_2,\ldots,X_n$ are independent r.v. on the same probability space, $Z=f(X_1,X_2,\ldots,X_n)$ is another r.v. And we have: $$ \mathbb{E}\{\mathbb{E}[Z|X_1,\ldots,X_{i-1},X_{i+1},\ldots,X_n]|X_1,\ldots,X_i\}=\mathbb{E}[Z|X_1,\ldots,X_{i-1}]. $$

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  • $\begingroup$ Btw, the first assertion is true if and only if $\mathcal{G}_1$ and $\mathcal{G}_2$ are conditionally independent given $\mathcal{G}_1 \cap \mathcal{G}_2$. See Kallenberg's Foundations of Modern Probability (Corollary 8.14 in the third edition, 2021). $\endgroup$
    – Florian R
    Commented Nov 16 at 11:13

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It's not true. For a counterexample, take $\Omega = \{a,b,c\}$ to be a sample space with 3 points, $\mathcal{F} = 2^{\Omega}$, and $P(A) = \frac{1}{3} |A|$ to be the uniform probability measure assigning probability 1/3 to each outcome. Let's represent a random variable $X : \Omega \to \mathbb{R}$ as the ordered triple $(X(a), X(b), X(c))$.

Set $\mathcal{G}_1 = \{\Omega, \emptyset, \{a\}, \{b,c\}\}$, and $\mathcal{G}_2 = \{\Omega, \emptyset, \{b\}, \{a,c\}\}$. Let $X$ be the random variable $(1,2,3)$. Then one can directly compute $$\begin{align*} E[X \mid \mathcal{G}_1] &= (1, 2.5, 2.5) \\ E[X \mid \mathcal{G}_2] &= (2,2,2) \\ E[E[X \mid \mathcal{G}_1] \mid \mathcal{G}_2] &= (1.75,2.5,1.75) \\ E[E[X \mid \mathcal{G}_2] \mid \mathcal{G}_1] &= (2,2,2). \end{align*}$$

To prove the second claim, I assert the following: suppose $U,V,W$ are mutually independent random variables or vectors, and $Y$ is $\sigma(U,V)$-measurable and integrable. Then $E[Y \mid V,W] = E[Y \mid V]$.

Clearly $E[Y \mid V]$ is $\sigma(V,W)$ measurable, so it suffices to show $E[Y 1_A] = E[E[Z \mid V] 1_A]$ for any $A \in \sigma(V,W)$. Suppose first that $A$ is of the form $A = B \cap C$ for $B \in \sigma(V)$, $C \in \sigma(W)$. Then $$\begin{align*} E[E[Y \mid V] 1_A] &= E[E[Y\mid V] 1_B 1_C] \\ &= E[E[Y 1_B \mid V] 1_C] && \text{since $B \in \sigma(V)$} \\ &= E[E[Y 1_B \mid V]] E[1_C] && \text{since $1_C \in \sigma(W)$ is independent of $\sigma(V)$} \\ &= E[Y 1_B] E[1_C] \end{align*}$$ while $E[Y 1_A] = E[(Y 1_B) 1_C] = E[Y 1_B] E[1_C]$ since $Y 1_B \in \sigma(U,V)$ is independent of $\sigma(W)$. The general case follows by a monotone class or $\pi$-$\lambda$ argument (the collection of all $B \cap C$ is a $\pi$-system that generates $\sigma(V,W)$).

Now apply this taking $U = (X_{i+1}, \dots, X_{n})$, $V = (X_{1}, \dots, X_{i-1})$ and $W = X_i$, and $Y = E[Z \mid U,V]$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you so much for your counterexample. But how can we easily see that the second assertion is true? $\endgroup$
    – edulearner
    Commented Oct 15, 2015 at 19:02
  • $\begingroup$ @edulearner: See edit. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 15, 2015 at 19:03
  • $\begingroup$ I see, the proof is nice. I think that is not a trivial thing, but the paper which I looked at just states this without any remark as if it is evident. $\endgroup$
    – edulearner
    Commented Oct 15, 2015 at 19:33
  • $\begingroup$ It's not completely trivial, no, but I think facts of this kind are pretty well-known among probabilists - it's the sort of thing that one would typically have done as an exercise in a graduate course. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 15, 2015 at 19:35

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