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Tate-Shafarevich Tate–Shafarevich group and $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \mathrm\operatorname{Sha}(E/L)$

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-ShafarevichTate–Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$$(1-\sigma)\Sha(E/L)\cong  \operatorname{trace}\Sha(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)Yu - On Tate-Shafarevich groups over galois extensions.

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

thereThere exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

weWe can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$$(1-\sigma)\Sha(E/L)\cong \operatorname{trace}\Sha(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Tate-Shafarevich group and $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \mathrm{Sha}(E/L)$

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Tate–Shafarevich group and $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \operatorname{Sha}(E/L)$

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate–Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\Sha(E/L)\cong  \operatorname{trace}\Sha(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of Yu - On Tate-Shafarevich groups over galois extensions.

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

There exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

We can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\Sha(E/L)\cong \operatorname{trace}\Sha(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated.

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$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated.Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong > trace\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$$(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong > trace\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Thank you in advance.

$\DeclareMathOperator\Sha{Sha}\DeclareMathOperator\Gal{Gal}$Let $L/K$ be a quadratic extension of number field $K$. Let $\sigma$ be a generator of $\Gal(L/K)$.

Let $E/K$ be an elliptic curve defined over $K$ and $\Sha(E/K)$ be its Tate-Shafarevich group. $\Gal(L/K)$ acts on $\Sha(E/L)$ naturally (cf. How Galois group acts on Tate-Shafarevich group?).

There is a canonical isomorphism $\tau: E(L)\cong E_D(L), (x,y)\mapsto (x,y/\sqrt{D})$ .

My goal is to prove $\tau$ induces $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong  \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$. This isomorphism appears in p219 of link)

To prove this isomorphism, it is enough to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$.

there exists an isomorphism $\phi: \Sha(E/L)\cong \Sha(E_D/L)$ induced by $\tau$ though I cannot write down the map between them.

we can check $\sigma \tau=-\tau \sigma$ because we can calculate its coordinates explicitly, but I cannot calculate both $\sigma \phi$ and $\phi \sigma$, so I'm having difficulty to prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$. How can I overcome this trouble and prove $\sigma \phi(C)=-\phi \sigma(C)$ for all $C \in \Sha(E/L)$ ?

Another approach of proving $(1-\sigma)\text{Sha}(E/L)\cong \text{trace}\text{Sha}(E_D/L)$ is also appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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