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Decalage Décalage and the simplicial path object

$\DeclareMathOperator\Hom{Hom}\DeclareMathOperator\const{const}$Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the decalagedécalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} sSets$$Y\in \operatorname{Ob} \mathit{sSets}$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $\const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John RognesRognes's answer in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $\const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $\const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<...<n]$$[0<1<\dotsb<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=\Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=\Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $\Hom(N,n)\times \Hom(n,1) \to \Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<...<n+1]$$0\in[0<1<\dotsb<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to \const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected component of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homotopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.

Decalage and the simplicial path object

$\DeclareMathOperator\Hom{Hom}\DeclareMathOperator\const{const}$Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the decalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} sSets$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $\const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John Rognes in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $\const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $\const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<...<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=\Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=\Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $\Hom(N,n)\times \Hom(n,1) \to \Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<...<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to \const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected component of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homotopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.

Décalage and the simplicial path object

$\DeclareMathOperator\Hom{Hom}\DeclareMathOperator\const{const}$Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the décalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} \mathit{sSets}$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $\const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John Rognes's answer in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $\const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $\const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<\dotsb<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=\Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=\Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $\Hom(N,n)\times \Hom(n,1) \to \Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<\dotsb<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to \const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected component of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homotopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.

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decalage Decalage and the simplicial path objecobject

Let$\DeclareMathOperator\Hom{Hom}\DeclareMathOperator\const{const}$Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the decalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} sSets$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $const(Y_0)$$\const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)$$Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John Rognes in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$$\const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $const(Y_0)\to Y$$\const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)$$Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<...<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$$(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=\Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=\Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $Hom(N,n)\times Hom(n,1) \to Hom(N,n+1)$$\Hom(N,n)\times \Hom(n,1) \to \Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<...<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)\to Y$$Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to const(Y_0)$$X\to \const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected compomentcomponent of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homopicallyhomotopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.

decalage and the simplicial path objec

Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the decalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} sSets$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John Rognes in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<...<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $Hom(N,n)\times Hom(n,1) \to Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<...<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected compoment of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.

Decalage and the simplicial path object

$\DeclareMathOperator\Hom{Hom}\DeclareMathOperator\const{const}$Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the decalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} sSets$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $\const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John Rognes in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $\const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $\const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<...<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=\Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=\Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $\Hom(N,n)\times \Hom(n,1) \to \Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<...<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to \const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to \const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected component of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homotopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.

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decalage and the simplicial path objec

Let $[+1]:\Delta\to\Delta$ be the decalage endomorphism sending $n\mapsto n+1$ adding a new minimal element, i.e. $f:n\to m$ is sent to $f':n+1\to m+1$, $f'(0)=0$, and for $0\leq i \leq n$ $f'(i+1)=f(i)+1$.

For $Y\in \operatorname{Ob} sSets$, let $Y^{\Delta[1]}$ denote the internal hom of maps of $\Delta[1]$ to $Y$.

Finally, let $const(Y_0)$ denote the discrete object $n\mapsto Y_0$. Recall that taking the 0-face defines a map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)$ and it is a weak equivalence by (Lemma 1.5.1, K.Waldhausen, Waldhausen, Friedhelm Algebraic K-theory of spaces. Algebraic and geometric topology (New Brunswick, N.J., 1983), 318-419, Lecture Notes in Math., 1126, Springer, Berlin, 1985.) (thanks to @John Rognes in Defining homotopy via endofunctors of a simplicial category ).

Is it true that

$Y\circ [+1]$ is isomorphic to $const(Y_0)\times_Y Y^{\Delta[1]}$ ?

Here $const(Y_0)\to Y$ is the obvious diagonal map, and $Y^{\Delta[1]\to Y$ is one of the two standard projections.

Sketch of possible proof: Let us construct a map $Y\circ [+1] \to Y^{\Delta[1]}$ which induced the isomorphism together with the map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)$.

Let $n$ denote the linear order $[0<1<...<n]$.

A map $(Y\circ [+1])_n=Y_{n+1}=Hom(\Delta[n+1],Y) \to (Y^{\Delta[1]})_n=Hom(\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1],Y)$ is given by a map $\Delta[n]\times \Delta[1]\to \Delta[n+1]$. To define this map, let us define for each $N$ a map $Hom(N,n)\times Hom(n,1) \to Hom(N,n+1)$ by $(f,g)\mapsto (f+1)g$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $0\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends everything to $0\in[0<1<...<n+1]$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{0\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to const(Y_0)\to Y$.

Note that when $g:N\to 1 $ sends everything to $1\in[0<1]$, the map $(f+1)g:N\to n+1$ sends each $i$ to $i+1$, and therefore $Y\circ[+1]\to Y^{\Delta[1]}\xrightarrow{1\in[0<1]} Y$ is the map $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$.

Does this argument really work ? Is there a reference for the fact it aims to prove ?

The motivation is that if the fact is true, then the property

a map $X\to Y$ factors though $Y\circ[+1]\to Y$

defines the class of maps homotopic to a map $X\to const(Y_0)$, i.e. homotopically trivial on each connected compoment of the domain. And this property can be formulated in an arbitrary category of simplicial objects defining a class of almost homopically trivial maps. I am also looking for references studying this property for an arbitrary category of simplicial objects.