Skip to main content
Became Hot Network Question
added 37 characters in body
Source Link

In John Cremona's book, he defines the modular symbol of an elliptic curve in the following way.

Let $E/\mathbf{Q}$ be an elliptic curve and let $f_E$ be the modular form associated to $E$. The modular symbol associated to $E$ is the map $\mathbf{Q} \to \mathbf{Q}$ given by sending any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$ to the rational number

$$ [r] := \dfrac{2 \pi i}{\Omega_E} \left( \int_r^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz + \int_{-r}^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz \right). $$

These modular symbols contain interesting information about $L$-values of $E$. I have two questions about this (in increasing levels of importance):

  1. Where can I find a proof that $[r]$ is indeed a rational number? If anyone has a reference, that would be great.

  2. How do we compute the value of $[r]$ exactlyexactly (i.e: not a numerical approximation)? Cremona's book says that for any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$, the value of $[r]$ can be computed exactlyexactly. (And in any case, Sage can compute the values exactly.) But I can't find a theorem anywhere that gives a formula for the exact value of $[r]$. If anyone knows of an algorithm to get an exact value of $[r]$, or better yet, a formula that gives the exact value of $[r]$ in terms of invariants of the elliptic curve $E$, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the help!

In John Cremona's book, he defines the modular symbol of an elliptic curve in the following way.

Let $E/\mathbf{Q}$ be an elliptic curve and let $f_E$ be the modular form associated to $E$. The modular symbol associated to $E$ is the map $\mathbf{Q} \to \mathbf{Q}$ given by sending any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$ to the rational number

$$ [r] := \dfrac{2 \pi i}{\Omega_E} \left( \int_r^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz + \int_{-r}^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz \right). $$

These modular symbols contain interesting information about $L$-values of $E$. I have two questions about this (in increasing levels of importance):

  1. Where can I find a proof that $[r]$ is indeed a rational number? If anyone has a reference, that would be great.

  2. How do we compute the value of $[r]$ exactly? Cremona's book says that for any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$, the value of $[r]$ can be computed exactly. (And in any case, Sage can compute the values exactly.) But I can't find a theorem anywhere that gives a formula for the exact value of $[r]$. If anyone knows of an algorithm to get an exact value of $[r]$, or better yet, a formula that gives the exact value of $[r]$ in terms of invariants of the elliptic curve $E$, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the help!

In John Cremona's book, he defines the modular symbol of an elliptic curve in the following way.

Let $E/\mathbf{Q}$ be an elliptic curve and let $f_E$ be the modular form associated to $E$. The modular symbol associated to $E$ is the map $\mathbf{Q} \to \mathbf{Q}$ given by sending any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$ to the rational number

$$ [r] := \dfrac{2 \pi i}{\Omega_E} \left( \int_r^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz + \int_{-r}^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz \right). $$

These modular symbols contain interesting information about $L$-values of $E$. I have two questions about this (in increasing levels of importance):

  1. Where can I find a proof that $[r]$ is indeed a rational number? If anyone has a reference, that would be great.

  2. How do we compute the value of $[r]$ exactly (i.e: not a numerical approximation)? Cremona's book says that for any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$, the value of $[r]$ can be computed exactly. (And in any case, Sage can compute the values exactly.) But I can't find a theorem anywhere that gives a formula for the exact value of $[r]$. If anyone knows of an algorithm to get an exact value of $[r]$, or better yet, a formula that gives the exact value of $[r]$ in terms of invariants of the elliptic curve $E$, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the help!

Source Link

How do you compute modular symbols?

In John Cremona's book, he defines the modular symbol of an elliptic curve in the following way.

Let $E/\mathbf{Q}$ be an elliptic curve and let $f_E$ be the modular form associated to $E$. The modular symbol associated to $E$ is the map $\mathbf{Q} \to \mathbf{Q}$ given by sending any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$ to the rational number

$$ [r] := \dfrac{2 \pi i}{\Omega_E} \left( \int_r^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz + \int_{-r}^{i \infty} f_E(z) \, dz \right). $$

These modular symbols contain interesting information about $L$-values of $E$. I have two questions about this (in increasing levels of importance):

  1. Where can I find a proof that $[r]$ is indeed a rational number? If anyone has a reference, that would be great.

  2. How do we compute the value of $[r]$ exactly? Cremona's book says that for any $r \in \mathbf{Q}$, the value of $[r]$ can be computed exactly. (And in any case, Sage can compute the values exactly.) But I can't find a theorem anywhere that gives a formula for the exact value of $[r]$. If anyone knows of an algorithm to get an exact value of $[r]$, or better yet, a formula that gives the exact value of $[r]$ in terms of invariants of the elliptic curve $E$, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the help!