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I read athe paper "stable"Stable, circulation-preseving simplicial fuids" by Elcott,.etc. et al: http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~misha/Fall09/Elcott07.pdf. It gives a structure preseving discretiondiscretization of fluids. I have a question about this paper forin its "advect vorticity" step.  (page 7, section 2.3). It shows (in my words) " we"we can backtrack all the dual vertexvertices, then compute the corresponding circulation". But there are some dual faces (namely, exactly those on the boundary), whosewhose boundary isdoes not comprised ofcomprise dual edges only, they. They also comprise some line segments that completely lie on the boundary face  (it is easyeasy to see if you draw a graph). In this case, we are not able to find the vorticity on themthese faces by backtracking dual vertexvertices only. We may need to backtractbacktrack more points ( forfor example, the centercenters of boundary faces and edges) so that we can compute the circulation then.

The above is my understanding,. I am not sure, but it seems the paper seems didn't talk about this. I am just wondering if anyone who read this paper can give me some help!

Thanks!

I read a paper "stable, circulation-preseving simplicial fuids" by Elcott,.etc. http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~misha/Fall09/Elcott07.pdf. It gives a structure preseving discretion of fluids. I have a question about this paper for its "advect vorticity" step.(page 7, section 2.3) It shows (in my words) " we can backtrack all the dual vertex, then compute the corresponding circulation". But there are some dual faces, exactly those on the boundary, whose boundary is not comprised of dual edges only, they also comprise some line segments completely lie on boundary face(it is easy to see if you draw a graph). In this case, we are not able to find the vorticity on them by backtracking dual vertex only. We may need to backtract more points ( for example, the center of boundary faces and edges) so that we can compute the circulation then.

The above is my understanding, I am sure but the paper seems didn't talk about this. I am just wondering if anyone read this paper can give me some help!

Thanks!

I read the paper "Stable, circulation-preseving simplicial fuids" by Elcott, et al: http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~misha/Fall09/Elcott07.pdf. It gives a structure preseving discretization of fluids. I have a question about this paper in its "advect vorticity" step  (page 7, section 2.3). It shows (in my words) "we can backtrack all the dual vertices, then compute the corresponding circulation". But there are some dual faces (namely, those on the boundary), whose boundary does not comprise dual edges only. They also comprise some line segments that completely lie on the boundary face  (easy to see if you draw a graph). In this case, we are not able to find the vorticity on these faces by backtracking dual vertices only. We may need to backtrack more points (for example, the centers of boundary faces and edges) so that we can compute the circulation then.

The above is my understanding. I am not sure, but it seems the paper didn't talk about this. I am just wondering if anyone who read this paper can give me some help!

Thanks!

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A question on discrete numerical simulation on fluids mechanics

I read a paper "stable, circulation-preseving simplicial fuids" by Elcott,.etc. http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~misha/Fall09/Elcott07.pdf. It gives a structure preseving discretion of fluids. I have a question about this paper for its "advect vorticity" step.(page 7, section 2.3) It shows (in my words) " we can backtrack all the dual vertex, then compute the corresponding circulation". But there are some dual faces, exactly those on the boundary, whose boundary is not comprised of dual edges only, they also comprise some line segments completely lie on boundary face(it is easy to see if you draw a graph). In this case, we are not able to find the vorticity on them by backtracking dual vertex only. We may need to backtract more points ( for example, the center of boundary faces and edges) so that we can compute the circulation then.

The above is my understanding, I am sure but the paper seems didn't talk about this. I am just wondering if anyone read this paper can give me some help!

Thanks!