This comes in continuation to posting titled "[Can Foundation be captured for some $\mathcal L_{\omega_1, \omega}$ theories?][1]". Here, an attempt at a stronger notion of Foundation, yet residing in the same language $\mathcal L_{\omega_1, \omega}$, is contemplated: For any formula $\phi $; for any non-strict well ordering $R$ on the universe; define: $[y=\min^R z:\phi(z)] \iff [\phi(y) \land \forall z (\phi(z) \to y \ R \ z)]$ It's clear that if $R$ exists, then we have: $(\exists y: \phi ) \to (\exists y: y =\min^R z: \phi(z))$ Now $\sf ZF + Def$ proves $\sf V=HOD$ so it proves existence of a non-strict well ordering $\leqslant$ over the universe. Now we define: $\textbf{Define: } y \in^\leqslant x \iff y= \min^\leqslant z: z \in x \\\textbf{Define: } y \in^\leqslant_\phi x \iff y= \min^\leqslant z: [z\in x \land \phi(z)]$ $\textbf{Foundation scheme: }$if $\phi_0,\phi_1,\phi_2,..$ is a decidable set of formulas in $\mathcal L_{\omega_1,\omega}$, then: $ \\\bigwedge _{j \in \omega} \forall x: \neg [\bigwedge_{n \in \omega} (\exists v_0,..,\exists v_n: \bigwedge_{i \in n}( v_{i+1} \in^\leqslant_{\phi_j} v_i) \land v_0 \in^\leqslant_{\phi_j} x)]$ > Is $\sf ZF + Def. + Foundation \ scheme$ consistent? > How does this Foundation schema compare (on top of ZF+Def.) with the single Foundation axiom presented in the earlier posting linked above. [1]: https://mathoverflow.net/questions/448512/can-foundation-be-captured-for-some-mathcal-l-omega-1-omega-theories/