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Theories of arithmetic in first-order logic, such as Peano arithmetic, second-order arithmetic, Heyting arithmetic, and their subsystems and extensions. Models of Peano arithmetic.

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Is there a decidable theory of arithmetic with a non-collapsing quantifier hierarchy?

This question is very close to this old MSE question of mine, which is still unanswered. Is there an (ideally reasonably-natural!) expansion of the structure $(\mathbb{N};+)$ in a finite language ...
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Are PA and Counting Theory synonymous\bi-interpretable?

The following question is whether $\sf PA$ is synonymous or even bi-interpretable with a theory about counting objects in finite sets. Counting Theory: $\textbf{Logic:}$ Bi-sorted first order logic ...
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About synonymy relationships around these two theories?

The following question is about patterns of synonymy relationships around two theories, $T^+$ and $\sf PA$. For purposes of self inclusiveness I'll re-iterate $T$ and its extensions. $\textbf{Logic:}$ ...
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Which arithmetic\set theory is synonymous with this theory?

$\textbf{Logic:}$ Mono-sorted first order logic with equality. $\textbf{Extralogical Primitives: } <, \in$ Define: $x > y \iff y < x$ Define: $x \leq y \iff x < y \lor x=y$ $ \textbf{...
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To which arithmetic\set theory this theory is bi-interpretable?

$\textbf{Logic:}$ Mono-sorted first order logic with equality. $\textbf{Extralogical Primitives: } <, \in$ $ \textbf{Axioms:}$ $ \textbf{Order:} \ x < y < z \to x < z $ $ \textbf{...
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Can this theory interpret Peano arithmetic?

Logic: Bi-sorted first order logic with equality, first sort written in lower case range over natural numbers, the second sort written in upper case range over sets of naturals, "$=$" has no ...
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Is there a 1-generic degree g such that Th(D(< g)) is more complicated than true arithmetic?

I am currently reading an article titled "Embedding and Coding Below a 1-Generic Degree" by Greenberg and Montalbán(link to a free source:https://pi.math.cornell.edu/~erlkonig/Papers/...
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Realizing arithmetic hierarchy in algebraic number theory

Is it possible to realize arithmetic hierarchy in algebraic number theory? For example, consider a $\Pi^0_4$ statement of the form $\forall x \exists y \forall z \exists w \phi(x,y,z,w)=0$ where $\phi$...
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The Dirichlet principle and arithmetical induction

Let us consider the Dirichlet principle as follows: for all natural numbers $n > k > 0$, there is no injection from $\{0, \dots, n-1\}$ into $\{0, \dots, k-1\}$. Is it true that in some non-...
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Natural functions outside $\sf PA$?

Can theories stronger than $\sf PA$ manage to define functions from the naturals to the naturals, that $\sf PA$ cannot? If so, what are examples of those functions?
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Can PA define functions related to higher theories?

Working in $\sf ZFC$ we can define a function $F$ from naturals to naturals such that $F(0) = \, ^\circ\ulcorner r({\sf Z}) \urcorner$, where $r({\sf Z})$ is the Rosser sentence of Zermelo set theory $...
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Heuristic interpretations of the PA-unprovability of Goodstein's Theorem

I've relatively recently learned about Goodstein's Theorem and its unprovability in Peano arithmetic (the Kirby-Paris Theorem). I do not have any real knowledge of formal logic; but I think I've seen ...
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Which part(s) of this proof of Goodstein's Theorem are not expressible in Peano arithmetic?

EDIT: Noah Schweber helpfully points out that $\mathsf{ACA}_0$ is a conservative extension of Peano arithmetic in which certain aspects of my proof not expressible in Peano arithmetic are expressible. ...
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Computational complexity of arithmetic sentences over classical theories

Below, I use the term "tracker" rather than "realizer" since I'm not requiring the relevant objects to be computable. Define the relation "$f$ tracks $\varphi$" for $f:\...
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Does Peano's axioms prove $\alpha$-induction for primitive recursive sequences for every concrete $\alpha < \varepsilon_0$?

It is well-known that Peano's axioms (PA) cannot prove $\varepsilon_0$-induction for primitive recursive sequences (PRWO($\varepsilon_0$)), because PA + PRWO($\varepsilon_0$) proves the consistency of ...
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What is known about the theory of natural numbers with only 0, successor and max?

Consider the first-order theory whose intended/standard model is the natural numbers $\mathbb{N}$, with constant $0\in \mathbb{N}$, with an injective successor operation $s$ such that $0$ is not a ...
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Further research on relevant realizability etc

I just read Dunn's 1979 paper Relevant Robinson's Arithmetic, and the end especially caught my interest. Following the surprising role of constant functions in collapsing "relevant Q with zero&...
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Is possibile to define transfinite sum and product recursively? [closed]

On mathstackexchange a few days ago I published the following question where I asked about "transfinite" sum and products but actually nobody answered or gave an opinion with a comment: thus ...
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$\Pi^0_1$ sentences modulo "schematic entailment"

Let $\mathfrak{P}$ be the preorder of $\Delta^0_0$ (= only bounded quantifiers) formulas with one free variable in the language of arithmetic, under the relation $\alpha(x)\le\beta(x)$ iff there is a ...
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Does this hierarchy of fragments of $I \Sigma_1$ collapse?

Does anyone know whether the following hierarchy of fragments of $\mathrm{I} \Sigma_1$ (or rather $\mathrm{I} \Pi_1$) collapses or not? Let $\Sigma^b_n$ denote formulas in the language of arithmetic ...
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A conservative extension of Peano Arithmetic

Ulrich Kohlenbach makes the following intriguing comment here: "In the 70s S. Feferman introduced a mathematically strong system S=restricted(PA^omega)+QF-AC+mu for classical mathematics (and in ...
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Truth Values of Statements in non-standard models

Excuse me, if the question sounds too naive. Non-standard models of PA will have statements of non-standard lengths, basically infinite. And it is also true that every statement of a theory will have ...
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Is there a theory between HA and PA that doesn't have Markov's rule?

A theory $T$ admits Markov's rule when For every formula $\phi(n)$, if $$T \vdash \forall n \in \mathbb N. \phi(n) \lor \lnot \phi(n)$$ and $$T \vdash \lnot \lnot \exists n \in \mathbb N. \phi(n)$$ ...
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Models of second-order arithmetic closed under relative constructibility

I know little to nothing about second-order arithmetic and its subsystems. However, I would like to understand when a model of (a subsystem of) second-order arithmetic ($\mathsf{Z}_2$) is downward ...
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What is the theory of statements with a provably *bounded* realizer (according to PA)?

$\let\T\mathrm\def\kr{\mathrel{\mathbf r}}$This is a follow up to Kleene realizability in Peano arithmetic. We can summarize the results from Emil Jeřábek's answer as follows: \begin{gather*} T_1 = \{ ...
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Why include $0$ and $1$ in the signature of Presburger arithmetic?

I recently became interested in some problems concerning decidability of extensions of Presburger arithmetic. However, being a number-theorist rather than a logician, I am confused by some notational ...
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Would this alteration safeguard the resulting theory from inconsistency?

If we replace "Emergence" axiom in the theory $T$ presented at posting "What is the set theory synonymous with this order-set theory?" with the following axiom, call the resulting ...
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Would this alteration of $T$ affect its synonymy with PA?

If we replace the single axiom "Emergence" in the axiomatic system $T$ presented at posting [What is the set theory synonymous with this order-set theory], by the following schema. Would the ...
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Can this theory of dyadic rationals prove that multiplying by three is the same as summing thrice?

(This question arose from a discussion with Jade Vanadium about a theory of dyadic rationals.) Let $T$ be the 2-sorted FOL theory with sorts $ℕ,ℚ$ and constant-symbols $0,1$ and binary function-...
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What is the set theory synonymous with this order-set theory?

Let $ T$ be a theory written in Mono-sorted first order logic with equality, with extralogical primitives: $<, \in$. Define: $x \leq y \iff x < y \lor x=y$ Axioms: $\textbf{Well ordering: }\\\...
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Is this theory synonymous with PA?

Language: Mono-sorted first order logic with equality. Extralogical Primitives: $<, \in$ Define: $x \leq y \iff x < y \lor x=y$ $\textbf{Well ordering: }\\\textit{Transitive:} \ x < y \land ...
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Seeking clarification of ultrapower nonstandard model of arithmetic

I've read that one nonstandard model of arithmetic is: take $\mathbb{N}^\mathbb{N}$, the set of countably infinite sequences of natural numbers take a quotent that gives the ultrapower: identify ...
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Defining the set of natural numbers in the first order Peano arithmetic [closed]

The question seems simple, but I'm not sure: let's consider a first order Peano Arithmetic and its standard model $N = \{ 0,1,2,3,... \}$ of natural numbers. A question: how can we define the whole ...
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Kleene normal form theorem for r.e. relations proven in arithmetical theories

After reading the relevant chapters of Classical Recursion Theory (freely available from here), I have the following questions concerning Theorem II.1.10 (Normal form theorem) and Theorem IV.1.9 (...
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Con(PA) via non-well-foundedness?

Lumsdaine made the following interesting comment: if Con(PA) fails in a non-standard model, it means it contains a “proof of non-standard length” of a contradiction from PA. With a little work, one ...
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In what sense does the sentence $\operatorname{con}(\mathsf{PA})$ "say" that $\mathsf{PA}$ is consistent?

It seems common amongst logicians to think of "truth" as being relative to a particular structure. Consider, for instance, the first-order theory of groups. The sentence $\forall x\forall y(...
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Extensions of $PA+\neg Con(PA)$ with large consistency strength

There is a large hierarchy of theories strengthening $PA$ eg $PA+Con(PA)$, $PA+Con(PA+Con(PA))$,..., second-order arithmetic and $ZFC$, ordered by consistency strength. Is there an extension of $PA+\...
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Independence and truth in PA

By $\textbf{PA}$ I will mean the usual first-order Peano Arithmetic. I will denote an element of $\mathbb{N}$ by $n$, and by $[n]$ I will denote the corresponding term in the language of $\textbf{PA}$:...
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Can Set Theory be turned into Infinite Arithmetic?

The following system I'd label as "Infinite Arithmetic" is simply an endeavor to extend second order arithmetic to the infinite ordinal world, and extending with it the representation of ...
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How is it possible for PA+¬Con(PA) to be consistent?

I'm having some trouble understanding how a certain first-order theory isn't just straight-up inconsistent. Let $PA$ be the axioms of (first-order) Peano arithmetic and let $C$ be the following ...
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Is set theory interpretable in infinite primitive recursive arithmetic?

In A Formalization of the Theory of Ordinal Numbers, Takeuti interprets $\sf ZFC$ in a first order theory extending first order arithmetic to the infinite ordinal realm, while at the same time ...
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Can set theory be interpreted in infinite arithmetic?

Is the following system of infinite arithmetic consistent? If so, can it interpret $\sf ZFC$? Language: first order logic Primitives: $\operatorname{Card}, <, + , \times,\text{^}$ where $\...
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The additive structure of clusters of nonstandard models of arithmetic

Given $\frak M$ a countable nonstandard model of $\sf PA$ and let $a\in M$ be a nonstandard element. A "cluster around $a$" is the set of successors and predecessors of $a$, a cluster is a ...
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Least number principle for IOpen fragment of Peano Arithmetic

Is it possible to prove the least number principle in IOpen fragment of Peano Arithmetic, i.e. having induction only for Open formulas?
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Analysis I, simpler proof of Tao's construction of the integers [closed]

In chapter 4 of Analysis I by Terence Tao, we have the following note about the set theoretic construction of the integers: In the language of set theory, what we are doing here is starting with the ...
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How to show that $\omega^\omega$ is well-founded in PA?

By induction on $n$ variables I can show that for any meta-natural number $n$, PA proves well-foundedness of $\omega^n$. However it is well known that PA proves well-foundedness of $\omega^\omega$ ...
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How tightly are decidability and "induction-completeness" linked?

It is known that there are a number of expansions of the structure $\mathfrak{N}:=(\mathbb{N};+)$ which are decidable (= have computable theories); one such example is the expansion by a predicate ...
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Can all the strongly provable theorems of $\sf PA+\neg Con(PA)$ be captured in an effective manner through alternative kind of provability?

If we extend $\sf PA$ with the following axiom asserting its own inconsistency: Inconsistency: $\exists x: \operatorname {Proof}_{\sf PA} (x, \ulcorner 0=1 \urcorner)$ For short denote this axiom by $\...
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Can we use remote provability to prove the first incompleteness theorem sans $\omega$-consistency?

Let $\mathcal g_1$ denote the usual Godel sentence defined as: $$ \mathcal g_1 \iff \neg\exists x:\operatorname {Proof}_T(x, \ulcorner \mathcal g_1 \urcorner)$$ Lets suppose that $\sf T$ is ...
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Can PA be acyclically complete?

Any formula $\phi$ in the first order language of arithmetic is to be called acyclic if and only if we can associate with it an acyclic undirected graph whose nodes are the variable symbols occurring ...
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