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A Löwenheim–Skolem–Tarski-like property

I am interested in the following Löwenheim–Skolem–Tarski-like property. Given a cardinal $\kappa$, what (if any) is a property $\phi(x)$ such that if $\phi(\kappa)$ holds, then we can prove the ...
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Some questions about the Hyperuniverse Program

The Hyperuniverse Program, founded by Sy D. Friedman, intends to produce new second-order axioms of set theory which appropriately formalize "the universe is maximal" in one of a few ways. A ...
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Systems of elementary embeddings

Recently I've been thinking about elementary embeddings, partition cardinals, etc. as part of my never-ending quest for understanding of consistency strength :p I came up with this idea, called I* ...
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If a theory speaks of sets that cannot be forced to be parameter free definable, then does this entail a large cardinal property?

If we say that an effectively generated first order theory $\sf T$ extends $\sf ZF$, such that every countable model of $\sf T$ doesn't have a class forcing extension that is pointwise definable. ...
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"Very $L$-like" models, part 2: combinatorics

Say that a good logic is a regular logic $\mathcal{L}$ containing $\mathsf{FOL}$ and having the finite use property and the strong downward Lowenheim-Skolem property together with, for each finite ...
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"Very $L$-like" models, part 1: large cardinals

(The original version of this question was much narrower and less natural; but see the edit history if interested.) Say that a good logic is a regular logic $\mathcal{L}$ containing $\mathsf{FOL}$ ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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On the strength of higher-logic analogues of $\mathsf{ZFC}$ + Montague's Reflection Principle

Throughout, I work in $\mathsf{MK}$ in order to be able to conveniently quantify over logics; if one prefers, we can restrict attention to (say) $\Sigma_{17}$-definable logics and work in $\mathsf{ZFC}...
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Upwards-fragility of inaccessibles (again)

Although self-contained, this question is a follow-up to this earlier one. Also, thanks to Fedor Pakhomov for fixing a trivial early version of this question! Work in $\mathsf{ZFC}$ + "There is a ...
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Fragility of large cardinals with respect to transitive end extensions

To motivate things, let me start with a special case of the question I'm interested in. Let $\mathsf{In}(x)\equiv$ "$x$ is an inaccessible cardinal." Question 1: Is it consistent with the ...
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How strong is this "modal definability principle"?

Throughout, we work in the class theory $\mathsf{MK}$ (although I'm open to tweaking this), "logic" means "set-sized logic whose semantics is definable over $V$," and "$\...
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Can there be no complexity bound on the definable elementary $V\rightarrow M$?

This starts with a vaguely-recalled result (which may be false!): that if $\mathcal{U}$ is a measure on the least measurable cardinal $\kappa$, then every elementary $j: L[\mathcal{U}]\rightarrow M$ ...
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Why does the second smallest worldly cardinal believe the smallest worldly cardinal is worldly?

It is known that the property of being a worldly cardinal is not absolute (a cardinal $\kappa$ is worldly iff $V_{\kappa} \vDash \textsf{ZFC}$). See here and here for more. This said, it is the case ...
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Can local $0^\#$ exists in L?

Assume $0^\#$ exists and there is an inaccessible cardinal. Are there two transitive sets $M,N$ s.t. $M\in N,M\vDash ZF+V=L[0^\#],N\vDash ZF+V=L$?
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How big a "scaffold" does second-order logic need to detect its own equivalence notion?

(Previously asked and bountied at MSE:) Let $\Sigma$ be the language consisting of a single binary relation symbol. Second-order logic can "detect" second-order-elementary-equivalence of $\...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Dehornoy's proof that the application of two elementary embeddings is an elementary embedding

What is meant by the statement and the proof of Lemma 3.2 in Chapter XII of Dehornoy's book Braids and Self-Distributivity? That lemma states "Assume that $j_1$ and $j_2$ are elementary ...
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A restricted form of the inner model hypothesis

Previously asked and bountied at MSE, with slight difference. To keep things relatively simple I'm presenting a somewhat-butchered version of the IMH; for more details, see S.-D. Friedman, Internal ...
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Compatibility of Łośian phenomena in second-order logic

(Throughout, all ultrafilters are nonprincipal.) Given a property $P$ - really, a sentence in some appropriate logic - say that a ultrafilter $\mathcal{U}$ on a cardinal $\kappa$ averages $P$ iff for ...
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Compactness number for a fragment of second-order logic

Previously asked and bountied without response at MSE. This question is a companion to this one, about a tame(?) fragment of second-order logic with the standard semantics, $\mathsf{SOL}$, motivated ...
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How strong is "all up-classes are infinitarily definable"?

Working in MK (or some other not-too-strong class theory if you prefer), say that an up-class is a class of structures $\mathfrak{X}$ which is definable in $V$ (allowing parameters from $V$) and such ...
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Lowenheim-Skolem numbers for SOL + correctness quantifiers

For a logic $\mathcal{L}$, say that a cardinal $\kappa$ is $\mathcal{L}$-correct iff every satisfiable $\mathcal{L}$-theory of size $<\kappa$ has a model of size $<\kappa$. First-order ...
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Elementary self-embeddings conservative over ZFC

Question: Is the following theory conservative over ZFC? And if not, what is its strength? Language: $∈$, $j$ (unary function symbol) Axioms: 1. ZFC (without separation and replacement for formulas ...
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Does the statement 'there exists a first-order theory $T$ with no saturated models' have any set theoretic strength?

Exercises 6, 7, and 8 in section 10.4 of Hodges' big model theory textbook contain an outline of a proof of the consistency of the following statement There exists a countable first-order theory $T$...
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The surreal numbers under a change of universe

Suppose we start with a model $\mathcal{M}$ of $ZFC$ (or $GBC$ or $MK$ if you prefer), and let $N_0^\mathcal{M}$ denote the surreals in $\mathcal{M}$. If we add some large cardinal assumptions $\{\...
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If any satisfiable $\mathcal{L}_{κ,κ}(Q_{=κ})$-theory remains satisfiable when replacing $Q_{=κ}$ with $Q_{=μ}$, is $κ$ huge?

Recently, I have asked a model-theoretic question concerning a weakening of different forms of compactness. I now present another model-theoretic question as a weakening of hugeness. If any ...
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A weakening of cardinal compactness - is it equivalent?

I was messing around with the intuition behind the size of weakly compact cardinals (in their usual characterization). I found an interesting, seemingly weaker LCA which still implies weak ...
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Does this consequence of measurability in terms of games of length $\omega+1$ imply measurability?

For any two structures $\mathcal{M}$ and $\mathcal{N}$ in the same first-order language $\mathcal{L}$ and any ordinal $\theta$, let $G_\theta(\mathcal{M},\mathcal{N})$ be the two-player game of ...
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Which large cardinals have a Matryoshka characterization?

What on Earth do Russian Matryoshka dolls have in common with large cardinal axioms?! Well, the answer lies in Jónsson algebras! Here is how: As illustrated in the pictures, a Matryoshka set is a self-...
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Weaker forms of Vopěnka's principle (using Indiscernables and other forms of Elementarity): How weak are they?

Vopěnka's principle is commonly used (or at least it was for me) as an intuitionistic approach to large cardinal axioms; that is, there is much intuition to it. This intuition is that for any proper ...
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Upward Löwenheim–Skolem theorem for well-ordered models with/without measurable cardinals

Consider a complete first order theory $T$ whose language contains a binary predicate $\leq$. Assume that $T$ has an uncountable model that is well-ordered by $\leq$ so that this question isn't stupid ...
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Examples of algebras of inner elementary embeddings in model theory (as opposed to set theory)

The algebras of elementary embeddings have been studied from a set theoretic perspective and an algebraic perspective. I wonder is there is a purely model theoretic approach to the self-distributive ...
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Cofinality of $j(\kappa)$ for a measurability embedding $j:V\to M$ with critical point $\kappa$

Suppose $\kappa$ is a measurable cardinal and $j:V\to M$ is the ultrapower by a normal measure on $\kappa$. Let's say, for instance, that $2^\kappa=\kappa^{++}$ (note that this assumption has ...
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Are there first order theories of interest to an algebraist or at least a model theorist of large cardinal consistency strength?

I am wondering if there are some first order theories of algebraic structures or structures of interest to model theorists of large cardinal consistency strength or at least unexpectedly high ...
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What is known about the large cardinal strength of Shelah's categoricity conjecture?

Shelah's categoricity conjecture states that for every Abstract Elementary Class $\mathcal{K}$ there is a cardinal $\mu$ depending only on $\operatorname{LS}(K)$ (i.e. the Löwenheim–Skolem number of $\...
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Is there a 'largest' second-order categorical axiomatization of set theory, extended from ZFC2

While it's possible to obtain categorical second-order axiomatizations of set theory by extending ZFC2 with additional axioms (see [1]), these axioms tend to be somewhat arbitrary (e.g. adding an ...
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When does Vopěnka's principle hold?

Vopěnka's principle (VP) is the statement that, given any proper class $\{\mathcal{A}_\eta: \eta\in ON\}$ of first-order structures in the same language, there are some $\alpha\not=\beta$ with $\...
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Can the structure of an ultrafilter determine the structure of its ultrapower?

Usually we work with ultrafilters as pure sets without any structure. Q1. Is there any important notion of structure on an ultrafilter? Q2. Is there any non-trivial notion of structure on ...
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$(\kappa,\lambda)$ - Minimal Models & Stronger Version of Rowbottom's Theorem

Definition 1: Let $M$ be a $\mathcal{L}$ - structure and $A\subseteq Dom(M)$. Define: $Def_{A}(M):=\{X\subseteq Dom(M)~|~\exists n\in \omega~~\exists \varphi (x,y_1,...,y_n)\in \mathcal{L}-Form~~\...
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$(\kappa , \lambda)$ - Minimal Models of $\text{ZF}$

The notion of minimality in model theory is related to the existence of a gap in the size of definable subsets of a model. Now consider the following generalization: Definition 1: Let $M$ be a $\...
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What are the Possible Large Cardinals of $L[X]$?

I've been doing some basic reading in inner model theory, and I'm at the point where I've seen the definition of things like Martin-Steel and Mitchell-Steel inner models. I am wondering about the ...
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Do inner models of unique measurable cardinals have a regular behavior? (Edited and Revised Version)

We know that if ‎$‎‎\kappa‎‎$ is a‎ ‎measurable ‎cardinal ‎and ‎‎$‎‎\mu$ be a‎ ‎two-valued ‎non-trivial‎‎$‎‎‎\kappa‎$-additive ‎measure ‎on ‎it ‎the‎n the corresponding inner model produced by ...
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Can we flex the rigid models by enough power?

Definition (1): ‎An ‎‎$‎‎‎\mathcal{L}‎$ -‎ ‎structure ‎‎$‎‎‎\mathcal{M}‎$ ‎called ‎"‎‎rigid" ‎iff ‎‎there ‎is ‎no ‎non-trivial automorphism on ‎$‎\mathcal{M}‎$.‎ ‎‎ Definition (2): ‎An ‎‎$‎‎‎\mathcal{...
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Is there a truth approximation on a‎ cumulative hierarchy‎‎‎‎?

Note ‎to ‎the ‎following ‎well known theorem:‎ Theorem (1): ‎If ‎‎$‎‎\kappa‎‎$ ‎be a ‎‎"measurable" ‎cardinal ‎and ‎‎$‎‎‎\mathcal{F}‎$ be a‎ ‎"non-principal ‎$‎‎‎\kappa‎$-complete normal‎" ‎...
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Is there a monster behind the trees?

First Fix the following notation:‎ ‎ $‎‎\forall ‎\kappa‎\in Card~~~Tp(‎\kappa‎):="‎\kappa‎~has~tree~property"$‎ ‎‎‎‎ The large cardinals as "monsters of heaven" live everywhere in the land of ...
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Vopěnka's Principle for non-first-order logics

(For simplicity, the background theory for this post is NBG, a set theory directly treating proper classes which is a conservative extension of ZFC.) Vopěnka's Principle ($VP$) states that, given any ...
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How badly does compactness fail in $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$?

I would like to get a better idea of how badly compactness fails in $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$. Let $\Gamma$ be an arbitrary set of sentences from $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$. Let the ...
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Large Cardinals Imply a Model of ZFC

I've run across the statement, "The existence of a strongly inaccessible cardinal implies the consistency of ZFC" in several places (Cohen's Set Theory and the Continuum Hypothesis p. 80, for one). ...
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Tractability of forcing-invariant statements under large cardinals

It is usual to mention theorems of the kind: Th. Assume there is a proper class of Woodin cardinals, $\mathbb{P} $ is a partial order and $G \subseteq \mathbb{P}$ is V-generic, then $V \models \phi \...
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Reasons to believe Vopenka's principle/huge cardinals are consistent

There are a number of informal heuristic arguments for the consistency of ZFC, enough that I am happy enough to believe that ZFC is consistent. This is true for even some of the more tame large ...
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