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Can $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1,\omega}$ detect $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1,\omega}$-equivalence?

Roughly speaking, say that a logic $\mathcal{L}$ is self-equivalence-defining (SED) iff for each finite signature $\Sigma$ there is a larger signature $\Sigma'\supseteq\Sigma\sqcup\{A,B\}$ with $A,B$ ...
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Reasons to believe Vopenka's principle/huge cardinals are consistent

There are a number of informal heuristic arguments for the consistency of ZFC, enough that I am happy enough to believe that ZFC is consistent. This is true for even some of the more tame large ...
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What is the spectrum of possible cofinality types for cuts in an ordered field? Or in a model of the hyperreals? Or in a nonstandard model of arithmetic?

I am interested to know the full range of possibilities for the cofinality type of cuts in an ordered field and in other structures, such as nonstandard models of arithmetic. Definitions. ...
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Tractability of forcing-invariant statements under large cardinals

It is usual to mention theorems of the kind: Th. Assume there is a proper class of Woodin cardinals, $\mathbb{P} $ is a partial order and $G \subseteq \mathbb{P}$ is V-generic, then $V \models \phi \...
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Is there one binary operation foundational for set theory?

The membership relationship "$\in$" is foundational for set theory, in the sense that the axioms of any set theory are formulated in the language of "$\in$". Naturally, the ...
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Improving a Lindstrom-y fact about $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1,\omega}$?

See e.g. the last section of Ebbinghaus/Flum/Thomas for the relevant background on abstract model theory. Below, all languages are finite for simplicity. "$HC$" is the set of hereditarily ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Compactness and completeness in Gödel logic

The standard proof of the completeness theorem in first-order Gödel logic is based on a first-order countable language. I want to know that is there any proof of the completeness theorem in first-...
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Is the ultraproduct concept fundamentally category-theoretic?

Once again, I would like to take advantage of the large number of knowledgable category theorists on this site for a question I have about category-theoretic aspects of a fundamental logic concept. My ...
Joel David Hamkins's user avatar
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Do the analogies between metamathematics of set theory and arithmetic have some deeper meaning?

By "formal analogies" between the metamathematics of $\mathsf{ZFC}$/set theory and $\mathsf{PA}$(=Peano Arithmetic)/first order arithmetic, I mean facts such as the following: We are considering a ...
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Is V, the Universe of Sets, a fixed object?

When I first read Set Theory by Jech, I came under the impression that the Universe of Sets, $V$ was a fixed, well defined object like $\pi$ or the Klein four group. However as I have read on, I am ...
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CH and automorphisms of ultrapowers of $\mathbb{Z}$ and $\mathbb{R}$

Notation and motivation. Given an algebraic structure $\mathbb{M}$ of cardinality at most the continuum and with countably many operations, and a nonprincipal ultrafilter $\cal{U}$ on a countably ...
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Universe view vs. Multiverse view of Set Theory

Here I refer to Hamkins' slides: http://lumiere.ens.fr/~dbonnay/files/talks/hamkins.pdf particularly, to the "Universe view simulated inside Multiverse", p. 22. My question is: is it very unsound ...
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Minimum transitive models and V=L

Is there a c.e. theory $T⊢\text{ZFC}$ in the language of set theory such that the minimum transitive model of $T$ exists but does not satisfy $V=L$? You may assume that ZFC has transitive models. ...
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When does Vopěnka's principle hold?

Vopěnka's principle (VP) is the statement that, given any proper class $\{\mathcal{A}_\eta: \eta\in ON\}$ of first-order structures in the same language, there are some $\alpha\not=\beta$ with $\...
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Non-standard models of finite set theory

It is well known how the intended model and how the (countable) non-standard models of arithmetic look like. It's also well known how the intended model of set theory with the axiom of infinity ...
Hans-Peter Stricker's user avatar
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The (non-)absoluteness of second-order elementary equivalence

Elementary equivalence is set-theoretically absolute between any two transitive models of set theory; this is also true for the infinitary logics - e.g., $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$ - at least, ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Why do we need a transitive model in forcing arguments?

One major approach to the theory of forcing is to assume that ZFC has a countable transitive model $M \in V$ (where $V$ is the "real" universe). In this approach, one takes a poset $\mathbb{P} \in M$, ...
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Kolmogorov-Arnold theorem for (just-)functions

There is famous Kolmogorov-Arnold theorem for continuous functions composition - continuous function of several variables can be composed of continuous functions of two variables. Specialization of ...
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Universal order type

Every countable order type, such as the countable ordinals, $\mathbb Z$, etc. can be embedded in $\mathbb Q$, so it is universal for countable order types. Is there a universal space for all linear ...
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For which theories does ZFC without global choice prove the existence of a proper class monster model?

Proper class sized monster models are typically formulated in a class theory like $NBG$ and they can reasonably be formalized in $ZFC$ with some kind of global choice, but for some theories you don't ...
James E Hanson's user avatar
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Elementary equivalence between $n\mapsto n+1$ and its inverse on the Stone-Čech remainder?

Consider structures $(A,f)$ encoding a Boolean algebra $A$ endowed with an automorphism $f$. There is an obvious notion of isomorphism between such structures. Consider the endomorphism $\hat{\Phi}$ ...
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What kind of compactness does "expanding $\mathbb{R}$ by constants" have?

EDIT: in retrospect this question should have been split up; I've accepted Joel's answer to the first part below, and asked the second part here. This question is crossposted at MSE; however, it has ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Is there a forcing closure?

The main theorem of forcing says that for any c.t.m of $ZFC$ like $M$ and for all partial order $\mathbb{P}$ and $\mathbb{P}$-generic $G$ over $M$, there is a c.t.m of $ZFC$, like $N$ such that $N$ is ...
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Compatibility of Łośian phenomena in second-order logic

(Throughout, all ultrafilters are nonprincipal.) Given a property $P$ - really, a sentence in some appropriate logic - say that a ultrafilter $\mathcal{U}$ on a cardinal $\kappa$ averages $P$ iff for ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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How do we know if Vaught's Conjecture is Absolute?

Please note that this might be some confusion on my part about the work surrounding Vaught's conjecture. First of all, Vaught Conjecture states that if a first-order complete theory $T$ in a ...
Kyle Gannon's user avatar
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Is this compactness property for "satisfiability on $\mathbb{R}$" consistent?

This was originally part of this older question of mine, but in retrospect that question should have been broken into two parts - this is the still-unanswered part. Let $\Sigma$ be the language of ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Ultraproducts in the category of structures and elementary embeddings

A previous question on the categorical nature of ultraproducts had great answers, mostly categorically characterizing ultraproducts in the category of $L$-structures and homomorphisms for a fixed ...
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An axiom for collecting proper classes

I'm currently working on some universal algebra using proper classes (in MK class theory), and I repeatedly run into situations where I want to collect together some proper classes as the members of a ...
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Is there a model of ZF+ACC where transfer fails for the definable hyperreals?

In 2003 Kanovei and Shelah constructed a definable hyperreal field. The ultrapower used exploits a fairly large index set so that it is clear that the usual proof of Los and transfer does not go ...
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Can one show that the real field is not interpretable in the complex field without the axiom of choice?

We all know that the complex field structure $\langle\mathbb{C},+,\cdot,0,1\rangle$ is interpretable in the real field $\langle\mathbb{R},+,\cdot,0,1\rangle$, by encoding $a+bi$ with the real-number ...
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What's a magical theorem in logic?

Some theorems are magical: their hypotheses are easy to meet, and when invoked (as lemmas) in the midst of an otherwise routine proof, they deliver the desired conclusion more or less straightaway&...
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What "metatheory" did early set theory/logic researchers use to prove semantic results?

Things like the first-order completeness theorem and the Löwenheim-Skolem theorem are considered foundational in mathematical logic. The modern approach seems to be, usually, to interpret a "model" ...
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Interactions between (set theory, model theory) and (algebraic geometry, algebraic number theory ,...)

Set theory and model theory have many applications outside of logic, in particular in algebra, topology, analysis, ... On the other hand model theory, in particular after Hrushovski, found many ...
Mohammad Golshani's user avatar
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Detecting uncountable cardinals in $(\mathbb{R};+,\times,\mathbb{N})$

For a structure $\mathcal{X}=(X;...)$, say that a cardinal $\kappa$ is $\mathcal{X}$-detectable iff there is some sentence $\varphi$ in the language of $\mathcal{X}$ together with a fresh unary ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Are there as many real-closed fields of a given cardinality as I think there are?

Let $\kappa$ be an infinite cardinal. Then there exists at least one real-closed field of cardinality $\kappa$ (e.g. Lowenheim-Skolem; or, start with a function field over $\mathbb{Q}$ in $\kappa$ ...
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What algebraic properties are preserved by $\mathbb{N}\leadsto\beta\mathbb{N}$?

Given a binary operation $\star$ on $\mathbb{N}$, we can naturally extend $\star$ to a semicontinuous operation $\widehat{\star}$ on the set $\beta\mathbb{N}$ of ultrafilters on $\mathbb{N}$ as ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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How badly does compactness fail in $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$?

I would like to get a better idea of how badly compactness fails in $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$. Let $\Gamma$ be an arbitrary set of sentences from $\mathcal{L}_{\omega_1\omega}$. Let the ...
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Vopěnka's Principle for non-first-order logics

(For simplicity, the background theory for this post is NBG, a set theory directly treating proper classes which is a conservative extension of ZFC.) Vopěnka's Principle ($VP$) states that, given any ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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How special is first-order $\mathsf{PA}$?

This is a modified version of a question which was asked and bountied at MSE without success. Below, "$\mathsf{PA}$" refers to first-order Peano arithmetic. There are various "...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Is "There exists an unbounded non-measurable set but no bounded non-measurable set" consistent with $\mathsf{ZF}$?

This is a follow-up to this question. We say that a set $A \subseteq \mathbb{R}$ is bounded if there exists a finite interval $(a,b)$ such that $A \subseteq (a,b)$. Working in $\mathsf{ZFC}$, the ...
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Pointwise algebraic models of set theory

Let $\mathfrak{M} = \langle M, E \rangle$ be a structure for the language of set theory, and take some $B \subseteq M$ and $m \in M$. Say that $m$ is definable over $B$ iff there is a formula $\phi(x,\...
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Is there an infinitary sentence which is absolutely not second-order expressible?

This is a "forcing-absolute" followup to this question, whose answer was largely unsatisfying. The question is: Suppose $V=L$. Is there an $\mathcal{L}_{\infty,\omega}$-sentence $\varphi$ ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Can ultraproducts avoid all "factor structures"?

This came up in the comments to an answer of Joel's. Suppose $\mathcal{M}_i$ ($i\in I$) are elementarily equivalent structures in the same fixed signature and $\mathcal{U}$ is an ultrafilter on $I$. ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Is there a complete uncountable theory with two countable models?

This is a question originally asked at MSE a few years ago; the original poster hasn't been active in a while, so I'm taking the liberty of asking it here: Is there a complete first-order theory $T$ ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Is this notion of finiteness closed under unions?

This was asked and bountied at MSE without success. Throughout, we work in $\mathsf{ZF}$. Say that a set $X$ is $\Pi^1_1$-pseudofinite if for every first-order sentence $\varphi$, if $\varphi$ has a ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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What is the "iterated definability" limit of first-order logic?

Roughly speaking, given a set-sized logic $\mathcal{L}$ let $\mathcal{L}'$ be gotten by adding to $\mathcal{L}$ the ability to quantify over $\mathcal{L}$-definable relations. (The details are a bit ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Uses of bisimulation outside of computer science.

Bisimulation is one of the most important ideas of theoretical computer science. I was wondering whether bisimilarity is used/known outside of computer science/modal logic? I am aware that it ...
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The strength of "There are no $\Pi^1_1$-pseudofinite sets"

For $\Gamma$ a set of second-order sentences in the empty language, say that a set $X$ is $\Gamma$-pseudofinite if $X$ is infinite but for every sentence $\varphi\in\Gamma$ which is satisfied in every ...
Noah Schweber's user avatar
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Ultraproducts and the empty set

If $I$ is a set, $U$ a nonprincipal ultrafilter on $I$ and $E=(E_i)_{i\in I}$ a family of sets indexed by $I$, then the ultraproduct $E^*$ of $E$ is generally defined as the quotient of $\prod_{i\in I}...
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Can one define in ZFC a directed system of embeddings on the class of all linear orders realizing the surreal line as the direct limit?

Consider the surreal line $\langle\newcommand\No{\text{No}}\No,\leq\rangle$, in its order structure only. This is a proper class linear order, which is universal for all set-sized linear orders, as ...
Joel David Hamkins's user avatar