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Infinite games. Combinatorial game theory for infinite two-player games of perfect information. Open games, clopen games. Determinacy. Transfinite game values. Topological games.

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Infinite positions in 3D chomp

I've recently come back to investigating ordinal chomp. See A winning move for the first player in $3 \times 3 \times \omega$ Ordinal Chomp for a definition. I made a new discovery, that the position \...
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Undetermined Banach-Mazur games: beyond DC

This question is a follow-up to this one; see that question for the definition of Banach-Mazur games. There James Hanson showed that ZF+DC proves that there is an undetermined Banach-Mazur game; ...
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Undetermined Banach-Mazur games in ZF?

This question was previously asked and bountied on MSE, with no response. This MO question is related, but is also unanswered and the comments do not appear to address this question. Given a ...
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Can I win this variant of the Banach-Mazur Game?

Suppose I play the following game against the Opponent. My moves are rational numbers $p_i$ and the Opponent's moves are real numbers $\epsilon_i>0$. On turn $n+1$ the past move sequence is $...
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Question about almost locally ccc and the Krom space

Definition 1. A family $\mathcal{B}$ of non-empty open sets in a topological space will be called $\pi$-base (or pseudo-base) if every non-empty open set contains at least one member of $\mathcal{B}$. ...
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Spaces where the Banach-Mazur game is undetermined

Let $X$ be a non-empty topological space. The Banach-Mazur game on $X$, $\textsf{BM}(X)$, is played as follows: Players I and II play an inning per positive integer. In the $n$-th inning Player I ...
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Solution to simple mathematical game

Consider the following game (that I made up). Two players each attempt to name a target number. The first player begins by naming 1. On each subsequent turn, a player can name any larger number that ...
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Banach-Mazur game and infinite products

Studying the article "Games that involve set theory or topology" of Marion Scheepers, I found the following result Theorem 46 Let $\{(X_{i}, \tau_{i}) : i\in I \}$ be a family of topological spaces. ...
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Is there a well-posed definition of game on a graph? Or a well defined category of games on graphs?

All I ever found about this were natural language rules à la Asimov's three laws of robotics. The questions are straightforward questions: 1) Is there a well-posed mathematical definition of game on ...
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Winning strategies for a game on the natural numbers

Define $$F=\{(l_n, k_n)_{n=1}^t: t,l_n, k_n \in \mathbb{N}, l_1<\ldots <l_t, m_1<\ldots <m_t\}.$$ Suppose that I have a collection $G\subset F$, which is a set of ''good'' sequences. ...
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An analytic game and Ramsey's theorem

Let $$P=\{(l_n, m_n)_{n=1}^t: l_n, m_n,t\in\mathbb{N}, l_1<\ldots <l_t, m_1<\ldots <m_t\}$$ and suppose that $T$ is some subset of $P$. Suppose that $T$ also has the following properties: ...
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Convergence and winning strategies

Suppose we have a set $B\subseteq 2^\omega\times\omega^\omega$ and a sequence $(x_n)$ in $2^\omega$ such that for each $n$, Player I (the one trying to get into the payoff set) has a winning strategy ...
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Rothberger game and Meager in itself sets

On $(\mathbb{R}, \tau)$ the euclidean space of real numbers, we define a new topology by letting $\tau^{*}=\{X\subseteq \mathbb{R}: X=\emptyset \hspace{0.1cm}\mbox{or}\hspace{0.1cm}\mathbb{R}\setminus ...
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Is there a three valued logic whose game semantics corresponds to potentially infinite games?

Consider game trees with the following properties: Each node in the tree is one of the following: Verifier Choice: Has one or more children Falsifier Choice: Has one or more children No Choice: Has ...
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Is each Choquet topological group strong Choquet?

A topological space $X$ is called (strong) Choquet if the player II has a winning strategy in the (strong) Choquet game. It is known that a metrizable space $X$ is $\bullet$ Choquet if and only if ...
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final coalgebra of the 𝓟${_{<κ}}$(A×X) endo-functor in $Set^*$?

In the paper Coalgebraic Games and Strategies F. Honsell, M. Lenisa, and R. Redamalla use the functor $F_A$(X) = ${\mathscr{P}_{<κ}}$(A×X) to define games coalgebraically. This is a functor from ...
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A community effort: equilibrium in quitting games [closed]

This thread is in the spirit of the polymath project: a combined effort of the community to solve a difficult open problem. It is an activity of the European Network for Game Theory whose goal is to ...
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Continuous limits of Hex on larger and larger boards

Consider the game of Hex on a variable sized $n \times n$ board. Remap each board to be a discrete subset of the unit square $[0,1]^2$. Optimal games are now finite sequences on the unit square. We ...
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How to describe the common boundaries between regions in a infinite Sudoku?

This relates to the answer to a question "Who wins two player sudoku?" and this awesome blog. A Sudoku can be $N \times N$ where $\sqrt{N}$ is a natural number because $N \times N / \sqrt{N} \times \...
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Is there a position in infinite Go for which the life of a particular stone has transfinite game value?

As follow up to Checkmate in $\omega$ moves?, we can ask the same question about go. Is there a position on a $\mathbb Z \times \mathbb Z$ goban such that either black can kill a white group, but ...
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The Sudoku game: Solver-Spoiler variation

Consider the Sudoku Solver-Spoiler game, a natural variation of the Sudoku game recently appearing in the question Who wins two-player Sudoku? posted by user PyRulez. In that game, the players attempt ...
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The arithmetic progression game and its variations: can you find optimal play?

Consider the arithmetic progression game, a two-player game of perfect information, in which the players take turns playing natural numbers, or finite sets of natural numbers, all distinct, and the ...
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A game on integers

$A$ and $B$ take turns to pick integers: $A$ picks one integer and then $B$ picks $k > 1$ integers ($k$ being fixed). A player cannot pick a number that his opponent has picked. If $A$ has $5$ ...
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The Axiom of Determinacy and the Banach-Mazur game

The Wikipedia article on the Axiom of Determinacy (AD) claims: Equivalent to the axiom of determinacy is the statement that for every subspace X of the real numbers, the Banach–Mazur game BM(X) is ...
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Does knight behave like a king in his infinite odyssey?

The Knight's Tour is a well-known mathematical chess problem. There is an extensive amount of research concerning this question in two/higher dimensional finite boards. Here, I would like to tackle ...
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On the topological complexity of the set of winning strategies for Gale-Stewart Games

Given a set $A \subseteq \omega^\omega$, let $G_A$ denote the Gale-Stewart game with payoff set $A$ (so player $I$ wants the real built over the course of play to be in $A$ and player $II$ wants it ...
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If non-empty player has a winning strategy in Banach-Mazur game BM(X), then it also has in BM(Y)?

Let $f:X\rightarrow Y$ be a continuous, open, surjection function and second player (non-empty) has a winning strategy (not important which one, say for simplicity stationery st.) in $BM(X)$. Then can ...
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Products and Gale-Stewart games

For the purpose of this post, I will say that the Gale-Stewart game is the infinite two-player game of perfect information where players I and II alternate playing natural numbers, with I going first. ...
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Undetermined copy/diagonalize games without CH

This question was the motivation behind an earlier question of mine; having thought about it some more, that question seems nontrivial and the connection is actually pretty tenuous anyways, so I've ...
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Choosing subsets of $\mathbb R$ of cardinality $\frak c$, who wins?

Consider the following infinite game: two players, I and II, are alternating and choosing a descending sequence of subsets of $\mathbb R$ of cardinality $\frak c$, so I chooses a set $A_1\subseteq\...
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Determinacy of (infinite, possibly loopy) combinatorial games

I am looking for references and hopefully enlightening proofs of the following statement(s) concerning the determinacy of not-necessarily-well-founded (i.e., possibly infinite, possibly loopy) ...
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On the Theory of Infinite Step Processes of Sequential Decision Making

On the border of Set Theory and Game Theory there is a broad class of Infinite Step Processes of Sequential Decision Making that can be characterized by the main following property: a Future ...
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Infinite-dimensional hex

Suppose $n$ players take turns selecting vertices of the grid $[k]^n = \left\{0, 1, 2, \ldots, k-1\right\}^n$. Each player is assigned a pair of opposite faces of the grid, and wins the game if they ...
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A game on sets of reals

A 2 player game on $\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{R})$: Players take turns playing uncountable sets of reals. Each play must be a subset of the previously played set. Player 1 wins if the intersection of all ...
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Infinite board games: sentences about

As a unified approach if we have an ( read any) infinite board game described as $\mathcal{G}$ using a particular axiom set A.. can a sentence be devised in A which automatically answers the basic ...
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The infinite X in Conway's game of life

In Conway's game of life, take the initial position to be two infinite diagonal lines of live cells, with a single cell in common. Does this thing converge to a stable configuration? I.e., is the ...
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Checkmate in $\omega$ moves?

Is there a chess position with a finite number of pieces on the infinite chess board $\mathbb{Z}^2$ such that White to move has a forced win, but Black can stave off mate for at least $n$ moves for ...
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Infinite games: are they well defined?

It is just my curiosity about this question where we have an infinite game and (according to the answers) winning strategies for both players. I am familiar with terminating games only, and I am ...
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Decidability of chess on an infinite board

The recent question Do there exist chess positions that require exponentially many moves to reach? of Tim Chow reminds me of a problem I have been interested in. Is chess with finitely many men on an ...
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Is perfect play possible in continuous rock-paper-scissors? game “step size” vs. “acceleration”

The first part of my question is simple: Is every game continuous in time and strategy-space also a game of perfect information with a good equilibrium? For example, consider rock-paper-scissors. The ...