# Does this formula have a rigorous meaning, or is it merely formal?

I hope this problem is not considered too "elementary" for MO. It concerns a formula that I have always found fascinating. For, at first glance, it appears completely "obvious", while on closer examination it does not even seem well-defined. The formula is the one that I was given as the definition of the cross-product in $\mathbb R^3$ when I was first introduced to that concept:

$$B \times C := \det \begin{vmatrix} {\mathbf i } & {\mathbf j } & {\mathbf k } \\\\ B_1 & B_2 & B_3 \\\\ C_1 & C_2 & C_3\\\\ \end{vmatrix}$$ On the one hand, if one expands this by minors of the first row, the result is clearly correct---and to this day this is the only way I can recall the formula for the components of the cross-product when I need it. But, on the other hand, the determinant of an $n \times n$ matrix whose elements are a mixture of scalars and vectors is undefined. Just think what happens if you interchange one element of the first row with the element just below it. In fact, as usually understood, for a determinant of a matrix to be well-defined, its elements should all belong to a commutative ring. But then again (on the third hand :-) if we take the dot product of both sides of the formula with a third vector, $A$, we seem to get:

$$A \cdot B \times C = A \cdot \det \begin{vmatrix} {\mathbf i } & {\mathbf j } & {\mathbf k } \\\\ B_1 & B_2 & B_3 \\\\ C_1 & C_2 & C_3\\\\ \end{vmatrix} = \det \begin{vmatrix} A_1 & A_2 & A_3 \\\\ B_1 & B_2 & B_3 \\\\ C_1 & C_2 & C_3\\\\ \end{vmatrix}$$ and of course the left and right hand sides are well-known formulas for the (signed) volume of the parallelepiped spanned by the three vectors, $A, B, C$. Moreover, the validity of the latter formula for all choices of $A$ indicates that the original formula is "correct".

So, my question is this: Is there a rigorous way of defining the original determinant so that all of the above becomes meaningful and correct?

• There's a natural way to side-step your question in that the cross product is dual (hodge dual + vector space isomorphic to its dual via an inner product) to the wedge product of forms. And your formula is essentially an expression of that duality. In the same way you can define the "cross product" of $n-1$ vectors in $\mathbb R^n$, etc. Feb 2, 2011 at 18:46
• A silly way out is to view your vector space as a bimodule over the field, and then you can compute the determinant without any guilt :) Feb 2, 2011 at 18:52
• It's tricky answering your questions because I figure you've seen everything already. But I don't like making those kinds of assumptions about people, so here we are. :) Feb 2, 2011 at 19:26
• @Ryan Budney: "...It's tricky answering your questions because I figure you've seen everything already." On the contrary, it is absolutely amazing to me (and more than a little humbling) how much I have learned from answers and comments to the questions that I and others have asked here. Feb 2, 2011 at 19:33
• @Dick: GA is really just another name for Clifford algebras, and there are determinants everywhere if you do coordinate calculations in a Clifford algebra. For example, the highest graded part of the Clifford product of two (homogeneous) multivectors is the exterior product of those multivectors, and exterior product is related to determinants in a way that you're probably familiar with. Feb 3, 2011 at 10:57

But there is a commutative ring available, along the lines of what Mariano says. If $k$ is a field and $V$ is a vector space, then $k \oplus V$ is a commutative ring by the rule that a scalar times a scalar, or a scalar times a vector, or a vector times a scalar, are all what you think they are. The only missing part is a vector times a vector, and you can just set that to zero. The dot product is then a special bilinear form on the algebra. In the formalism, I think that everything that you wrote makes sense.

Theo says in a comment that "even better", one should work over $\Lambda^*(V)$, the exterior algebra over $V$. The motivation is that this algebra is supercommutative. I considered mentioning this solution, and supposed that I really should have, because it arises in important formulas. For example, the Gauss formula for the linking number between two knots $K_1, K_2 \subseteq \mathbb{R}^3$ is: $$\mathrm{lk}(K_1,K_2) = \int_{K_1 \times K_2} \frac{\det \begin{bmatrix} \vec{x} - \vec{y} \\ d\vec{x} \\ d\vec{y} \end{bmatrix}}{4\pi |\vec{x} - \vec{y}|^3}$$ $$= \int_{K_1 \times K_2} \frac{\det \begin{bmatrix} x_1 - y_1 & x_2 - y_2 & x_3 - y_3 \\ dx_1 & dx_2 & dx_3 \\ dy_1 & dy_2 & dy_3 \end{bmatrix}}{4\pi |\vec{x} - \vec{y}|^3}.$$ The right way to write and interpret this formula is indeed as a determinant in the exterior algebra of differential forms. For one reason, it makes it easy to generalize Gauss' formula to higher dimensions.

However, supercommutative is not the same as commutative, and this type of determinant has fewer properties than a determinant over a commutative ring. And different properties. Such a determinant has a broken symmetry: you get a different answer if you order the factors in each term by rows than by columns. (I am using row ordering.) Indeed, the row-ordered determinant can be non-zero even if it has repeated rows. To give two examples, the determinant in the generalized Gauss formula has repeated rows, and the standard volume form in $\mathbb{R}^n$ is $$\omega = \frac{\det ( d\vec{x}, d\vec{x}, \ldots, d\vec{x} )}{n!}.$$

Happily, for Dick's question, you can truncate the exterior algebra at degree 1, which is exactly what I did. This truncation is both supercommutative and commutative.

• If you define vector to vector as zero and try the same dot product trick with the second row, you would get a wrong answer. Feb 2, 2011 at 21:13
• @Sergei: ??? Sorry to be so dense, but could you expand on your comment a bit. I'm not sure what you mean by "the same dot product trick with the second row". If you mean take the dot product of the original formula with $B$ then you get $0 = 0$ so you obviously must mean something else. Feb 2, 2011 at 21:53
• Even better, one should work over $\Lambda^\bullet V =$ the free commutative (in the super sense) ring generated by V in degree 1. Feb 3, 2011 at 0:11
• Theo: I think the point of the question is to expand on should... Feb 3, 2011 at 0:31
• Let me restate Greg's last sentence in plain English: If you demand that exactly one row of vectors in $|\cdots|$, then $|\cdot|$ is well-defined on a standard vector space and nothing new is needed. If, however, you want to allow more than one row of vectors, then $|\cdot|$ is still well-defined but takes values in the exterior algebra. Feb 3, 2011 at 18:17

Back in the 19th century, when people had been experimenting with determinants a lot, they might have interpreted the above definition of $B\times C$ in terms of quaternions. If $i$, $j$, and $k$ denote basis elements of $\mathbb H$ and $${\mathbf x}=x_1i+x_2j+x_3k,$$ $${\mathbf y}=y_1i+y_2j+y_3k\quad$$ are pure imaginary elements of $\mathbb H$, then the vector part $\Im(\mathbf{xy})$ of the Hamilton product $\mathbf{xy}$ is equal to the determinant

$$\Im(\mathbf{xy})=\Im(\mathbf{x})\times \Im(\mathbf{y})=\det \begin{vmatrix} i & j & k \\\\ x_1 & x_2 & x_3 \\\\ y_1 & y_2 & y_3\\\\ \end{vmatrix}.$$

There is a note by Sir Arthur Cayley where he introduces the notion of a quaternion determinant. He mentions several identities of the form

$$\det \begin{vmatrix} {\mathbf x} & {\mathbf x} \\\\ {\mathbf y} & {\mathbf y} \\\\ \end{vmatrix} = -2\det \begin{vmatrix} i & j & k \\\\ x_1 & x_2 & x_3 \\\\ y_1 & y_2 & y_3\\\\ \end{vmatrix}$$ and $$\det \begin{vmatrix} {\mathbf x } & {\mathbf x } & {\mathbf x } \\\\ {\mathbf y } & {\mathbf y } & {\mathbf y } \\\\ {\mathbf z } & {\mathbf z } & {\mathbf z } \\\\ \end{vmatrix} = -2\det \begin{vmatrix} {3} & i & j & k \\\\ x_0 & x_1 & x_2 & x_3 \\\\ y_0 & y_1 & y_2 & y_3\\\\ z_0 & z_1 & z_2 & z_3\\\\ \end{vmatrix}$$ where $\mathbf x$, $\mathbf y$, $\mathbf z$ are arbitrary quaternions $${\mathbf x}=x_0+x_1i+x_2j+x_3k, \mbox{ etc.}$$

• Nice! I am not surprised but glad to see that black on white :) Feb 3, 2011 at 14:40
• That $3$ there is particularly cute :) Feb 4, 2011 at 2:19

I guess I'm not sure about the difference between "rigorous" and "formal". To me, $|\cdots|$ can be viewed as defining the exterior product of $n$ vectors in an $n$-dimensional vector space. So if you leave the first row blank, then what you have is a linear functional defined by taking the exterior product of $n-1$ vectors. If you fill in the blank row with the basis (that you're writing everything with respect to) $e_1, \dots, e_n$, then clearly taking the dot product of this with an arbitrary $n$th vector gives the exterior product of all $n$ vectors. It follows that this vector is just the Hodge star of the exterior product of the original $n-1$ vectors. But this is just a formal discussion, right?

Of course, this is not really an answer. Merely a contribution. I like this one too: $X(Y\times Z)^T+Y(Z\times X)^T+Z(X\times Y)^T=\det(X,Y,Z)\,I_3,\qquad\forall X,Y,Z\in k^3.$

Hi Dick, I don't know if there is one or another way to give a formal meaning to this formula, but I understand it this way:

We have the identity $\det[X\ Y\ Z] = \langle X, Y \times Z\rangle$, where the brackets denotes the scalar product. So, $Y \times Z = \sum_{i=1}^3 \langle e_i, Y \times Z \rangle e_i = \sum_{i=1}^3 \det[e_i \ Y\ Z]e_i$, where $e_i$ are the vectors of the canonical basis, which is your formula, I think.

-- Note: It seems to be the same remark as Deane Yang's