Why is it that mirror symmetry has many relations with algebraic geometry, rather than with complex geometry or differential geometry? (In other words, how is it that solutions to polynomials become relevant, given that these do not appear in the physics which motivates mirror symmetry?) I would especially appreciate nontechnical answers.

  • $\begingroup$ This question has undergone a close/rewrite/reopen cycle, and so I've just deleted the remaining (now irrelevant comments). These comments, and the discussion on the rewrite, are preserved at tea.mathoverflow.net/discussion/826/…. $\endgroup$ – Scott Morrison Dec 12 '10 at 2:48

Here are a few scattered observations:

  • Our ability to construct examples (e.g. of CY manifolds) is limited, and the tools of algebraic geometry are perfectly suited to doing so (as has been noted).

  • Toric varieties are a source of many examples -- Batyrev-Borisov pairs -- and they are even "more" than algebraic, they're combinatorial. In fact, the whole business is really about integers in the end, so combinatorics reigns supreme.

  • The fuzziness of $A_\infty$ structures is more suited to algebraic topology rather than geometry.

  • Continuity of certain structures (which are created from counting problems) across walls, scores some points for analysis over combinatorics and algebra.

  • Elliptic curves are only "kinda" algebraic, and the mirror phenomenon there is certainly transcendental.

  • Physics indeed does not care too much about how the spaces are constructed, but (as has been noted) even the non-topological version of mirror symmetry is an equivalence of a very algebraic structure (which includes representations of superconformal algebras).

I was hoping to unify these idle thoughts into a coherent response, but I don't think I can. Maybe the algebraic geometric aspects just grew faster because the mathematics is "easier" (or at least better understood by more mathematicians): witness the slow uptake of BCOV and its antiholomorphicity within mathematics.

To respond personally: these days, I try to transfer the algebraic and symplectic structures to combinatorics so that I can hold them in my hand and try to understand them better.

  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for this answer, Eric. It cleared some things up for me. $\endgroup$ – Spiro Karigiannis Dec 15 '10 at 14:05

Here is my impression ...

(I am very much a non-expert in the physics (and probably the mathematics too) so I may well be wrong about some of these things.)

Algebraic geometry sometimes enters the picture in string theory and physics because, while we start with, say, a compact Kähler manifold, for some reason or another we maybe get an integral Kähler class (for example see this MO question), and thus our manifold is projective by the Kodaira embedding theorem, and thus it is algebraic by Chow's theorem. Conversely, we may be actually interested in possibly non-algebraic compact Kähler manifolds in the physics or string theory, but the algebraic manifolds will provide at least a pretty big class of nice examples to play with.

And at least for smooth projective algebraic varieties, GAGA theorems tell us that many things (like for example, sheaf cohomology) are the same whether we consider our space as an algebraic variety or as an analytic thing. For the B-model side of mirror symmetry, I think this is how algebraic geometry (as opposed to complex analytic geometry) generally comes into play --- via GAGA theorems or at least "GAGA principles". For example, it is a fact that analytic coherent sheaves on smooth projective varieties are algebraic. From this it follows that, at least for smooth projective varieties, the derived category of coherent sheaves is the same whether we look at things algebraically or analytically. (I'm guessing, but I don't know for a fact, that in the physics the analytic objects are the a priori relevant ones.)

Another interesting issue is the fact that algebraic geometry often appears even on the A-model side of mirror symmetry, which is supposed to be the symplectic side of the story. I don't really know anything about this, so maybe someone else can say more, but there's some work on, for example, the relation between the symplectic version of Gromov-Witten theory and the algebraic geometry version of Gromov-Witten theory -- they're supposed to coincide in the case of smooth projective varieties. It's perhaps not too surprising, since the symplectic version of GW theory involves J-holomorphic curves after all, but it's definitely not a trivial result.

I suppose the naive explanation for the appearance of surfaces is that they're worldsheets of strings, but I don't really know the explanation for why the surfaces should have complex structures, i.e. why they should be Riemann surfaces (and by the way, it is also a basic fact that any compact Riemann surface is algebraic) nor do I know why the maps from the curves to the target manifolds should be holomorphic or J-holomorphic. I hope that other MO users, especially people who know about string theory and physics, can say more about these things...

  • $\begingroup$ Great answer. I am also not an expert in the physics, but I think I remember reading somewhere that the worldsheets should be oriented (hence they admit conformal structures) and that perhaps (?) the physics doesn't care which conformal structure we put? This is part (perhaps faulty) recollection and part guessing. $\endgroup$ – Spiro Karigiannis Dec 11 '10 at 18:25
  • $\begingroup$ Yeah, I think it's something like that... in my imagination, the conformal/complex structure comes from having, say, an orientation and a Riemannian metric, and then the complex structure is automatically integrable by dimension reasons. As for the choice of conformal/complex structure, I imagine that the relevant path integrals are over the space of all such - I think this is how moduli spaces come into play. $\endgroup$ – Kevin H. Lin Dec 11 '10 at 18:37
  • $\begingroup$ I think (but I'm absolutely no expert) that the worldsheet of the string naturally comes equipped with a Riemannian metric (and an orientation), and some relevant Lagrangian is (at least in "topological field theory"?) conformally invariant, so what you actually care of is the conformal structure. Conformal structure in dim=1 gives holomorphic structure. Algebraicity follows -as KL said- merely because compact Riemann surfaces are algebraic. $\endgroup$ – Qfwfq Dec 24 '10 at 1:31

Kevin Lin gave a great technical answer to this question (which should be accepted) but I would like to add some more "philosophical" reasons for this:

[1] algebraic geometry methods are easier to apply and much more well-developed. I don't mean algebraic geometry is easy, I just mean that the tools, by their nature, give more concrete results (for example, on toric varieties), as opposed to geometric analysis methods, which by their nature often yield non-constructive or non-explicit results.

[2] the algebraic geometers got into the Mirror Symmetry game much earlier and made more rapid progress than the differential geometers. (And they wrote many of the books.)

I would still appreciate more answers, though. Perhaps people who are very adept at having a dual existence (like Eric Zaslow) can contribute their opinions?


Part of the physics motivation for mirror symmetry involves properties of the chiral ring of N=2 superconformal field theories. Some of these have a description in terms of the polynomials appearing in algebraic geometry. One of the earliest references on this is Algebraic Geometry and Effective Lagrangians, Emil J. Martinec, Phys.Lett.B217:431,1989. There are many papers discussing the relation between these "Landau-Ginzburg" models and mirror symmetry. See for example the paper by Berglund and Katz, http://arXiv.org/pdf/hep-th/9406008.


The following is a rough outline of the most elementary structures that appear in a physics discussion of mirror symmetry. It turns out that the physics actually leads in two ways directly to polynomial equations that describe the varieties. On the most basic level string theory deals with Calabi-Yau manifolds that provide the extra dimensions needed to go from 10 dimensions to the physical 4 dimensions that we live in. Calabi-Yau manifolds are described by polynomials, hence it is not too unexpected (in retrospect) that the pheonomenon of mirror symmetry would be discovered by constructing enough polynomials describing enough Calabi-Yau spaces. And so it was. On a more fundamental, string theoretic level, the conformal field theory on the string worldsheet has a mean field theory limit in which is described by a so-called Landau-Ginzburg potential. This Landau-Ginzburg potential in turn has a classical limit in which it describes a polynomial that defines a hypersurface in a toric variety. It is precisely this polynomial that describes the Calabi-Yau variety corresponding to the underlying conformal field theory. Mirror symmetry is a simple operation on the worldsheet, defining a sign flip in the charge of the fields, but it is not too surprising that this operation on the worldsheet is reflected in the form of the polynomial, hence the precise structure of the Calabi-Yau space.

  • $\begingroup$ "Calabi-Yau manifolds are described by polynomials" --- Aaron Bergman's answer here mathoverflow.net/questions/30629/… suggests that this issue is a bit subtle... $\endgroup$ – Kevin H. Lin Dec 11 '10 at 18:57
  • $\begingroup$ It's true that in complex dimension greater than or equal to 3, all Calabi-Yau manifolds are projective. (It's not true for K3 surfaces.) However, I didn't think this was crucial. From what I've heard, it's the existence of a parallel spinor (for supersymmetry) that forces one to use Calabi-Yau manifolds. In fact, I believe currently many string theorists are considering non-Kahler complex manifolds with trivial canonical bundle, and these are probably not all algebraic (although I am not sure...) $\endgroup$ – Spiro Karigiannis Dec 11 '10 at 19:09
  • $\begingroup$ @Kevin Lin: Thanks for pointing out that other MO question. Indeed, I always assume that Calabi-Yau means holonomy exactly SU(n), because otherwise it really reduces to a "simpler" situation. It's holonomy SU(n) that yields exactly 2 parallel spinors. See hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/12/60/70/PDF/2000jmp.pdf for example $\endgroup$ – Spiro Karigiannis Dec 11 '10 at 19:18
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    $\begingroup$ Is it really true that all or even most of the conformal field theories on the string worldsheet have a limit giving an LG potential that defines a Calabi-Yau hypersurface in a toric variety? This seems to me like it should put serious restrictions on the possible Hodge numbers for such Calabi-Yaus that would not be apparent (to me) from starting out with a type II sigma model. Or perhaps there are just a lot more toric ambient spaces than I assume. $\endgroup$ – Chris Brav Dec 12 '10 at 18:07
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    $\begingroup$ As I mentioned, the idea was to very briefly explain very roughly in two different ways how it can be understood that polynomial structures appear in the context of mirror symmetry. For this purpose I focused on certain relevant classes of CYs that have been important in the past. It is at this point in time not possible for many reasons to make universally valid statements about the relation between CYs and CFTs. It is intriguing though that the limits for the Hodge numbers of weighted CY hypersurfaces obtained in one of the 1990 mirror papers are still valid limits for all known CYs. $\endgroup$ – Laie Dec 12 '10 at 19:47

It's probably slightly offbeat, verging on the mystical, and my apologies if it sounds a bit ridiculous, but I reckon mirror symmetry may ultimately derive from sets of degrees of freedom $x_i$ satisfying:

$ x_1 + x_2 .. + x_N = 0 $

$ x_1 x_2 .. x_N = 1 $

For small N, such as N = 4, this variety is birationally equivalent to all kinds of different forms, some with a tantalizingly "physical" appearance.

Also, for larger N, it can clearly "split" (either exactly or approximately) into the union of lower-dimensional varieties of the same form.

Obvious symmetries are $ x_i \rightarrow 1 / x_i $ and (for even N) $ x_i \rightarrow - x_i $, and I dare say there are others.

It would be very interesting to know if these varieties are Calibi-Yau manifolds. But that would be better discussed in another thread.

  • $\begingroup$ Well, it does sound a bit ridiculous. The second equation is not even homogeneous, so it does not describe a projective variety. I really do not think mirror symmetry has anything at all to do with the Calabi-Yau manifold being symmetric in its own right in any way. This is a quite mysterious and very complicated duality between different Calabi-Yau manifolds which can have different topologies. $\endgroup$ – Spiro Karigiannis Dec 12 '10 at 13:13
  • $\begingroup$ Well, one can easily make the second one homogeneous. But I take your point about the different topologies, especially if these can differ for manifolds with the same dimension. $\endgroup$ – John R Ramsden Dec 12 '10 at 17:20
  • $\begingroup$ Mirror symmetry in the context of the question is a technical term that arises from equivalences of certain superconformal field theories. It is not specifically about varieties that possess lots of automorphisms, as you seem to suggest. $\endgroup$ – S. Carnahan Dec 15 '10 at 8:37
  • $\begingroup$ Perhaps my comment wasn't quite as ridiculous as I/we suspected. See Definition 1, on page 8, of the recent ArXiv paper arxiv.org/abs/1105.2052 titled "Topological recursion and mirror curves". Their second "multiplicative" equation is slightly different to the one I quoted, involving as it does the exponents which they say represent charges. But aside from that, and a scaling which introduces a constant in the "additive" equation, their pair closely resembles mine! $\endgroup$ – John R Ramsden May 14 '11 at 11:01

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