# Smooth functions for which $f(x)$ is rational if and only if $x$ is rational

A friend of mine introduced me to the following question: Does there exist a smooth function $f: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}$, ($f \in C^\infty$), such that $f$ maps rationals to rationals and irrationals to irrationals and is nonlinear?

I posed this question earlier in math.stackexchange.com (link to the question) where it received considerable interest. There hasn't been an answer so far, but one commenter suggested to bring it here.

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• The friend who told me the problem has been able to prove that no polynomial satisfies the required conditions.

• If we required just that $f \in C^1$, then we can cut and paste the function $x \mapsto \frac{1}{x}$ to provide a nonlinear example: $$f(x) = \begin{cases}\frac{1}{x-1} + 1, & x \le 0 \\\\ \frac{1}{x+1} - 1, & x \ge 0\end{cases}$$

There are such functions. Moreover any diffeomorphism $f_0:\mathbb R\to\mathbb R$ can be approximated by such $f$. For the sake of simplicity I assume that $f_0'\ge 2$ everywhere.

Enumerate the rationals: $\mathbb Q=\{r_1,r_2,\dots\}$, and construct a sequence $f_0,f_1,f_2,\dots$ of self-diffeomorphisms of $\mathbb R$ satisfying the following:

• $f_{2k-1}(r_k)\in\mathbb Q$, and $f_n(r_k)$ is the same for all $n\ge 2k-1$

• $f_{2k}^{-1}(r_k)\in\mathbb Q$, and $f_n^{-1}(r_k)$ is the same for all $n\ge 2k$.

• The first $k$ derivatives of the difference $f_k-f_{k-1}$ are bounded by $2^{-k}$ everywhere on $\mathbb R$.

Such a sequence has a limit $f$ in $C^\infty$, and this limit is a diffeomorphism satisfying $f(\mathbb Q)\subset\mathbb Q$ and $f^{-1}(\mathbb Q)\subset\mathbb Q$.

The sequence $\{f_i\}$ can be constructed by induction. To construct $f_{2k-1}$ from $g:=f_{2k-2}$, consider $g(r_k)$. If it is rational, let $f_{2k-1}=g$. If not, let $I$ be an open interval containing $r_k$ and not containing any of the points $r_i$ and $g^{-1}(r_i)$ for $i\le k-1$. (Note that $r_k$ is different from these points due to the fact that $g(r_k)\notin\mathbb Q$). Then define $f_{2k-1}=g+\varepsilon\cdot h$ where $h$ is your favorite smooth function with support contained in $I$ and such that $h(r_k)\ne 0$, $\varepsilon$ is so small that the above derivative estimates hold and is chosen so that $f_{2k-1}(r_k)\in\mathbb Q$. To construct $f_{2k}$ from $f_{2k-1}$, do a similar perturbation near the pre-image of $r_k$, assuming it is not yet rational.

• Are there any examples of such functions, which can be computed by an algorithm (efficiently)? Apr 8, 2020 at 17:07

In the answer to this close question I remarked how to make an entire, non polynomial function bijecting two assigned countable dense sets $A$ and $B$.

Also, you can make a non-analytic $C^\infty$ self-diffeo of $\mathbb{R}$ that bijects $A$ and $B$ with similar procedure. Say a $C^\infty$ diffeo, which is not the identity map, but with a tangency of infinite order to the identity map at $0$.

• @Pietro: I don't understand how you can run your procedure described as is in that other question here. You say: "inductively add only odd degree polynomials $p_n$, that vanish on the (finitely many) already settled points, and do not destroy the invertibility on $\mathbb{R}$, but if you start with $p_1(x) = qx$ for some rational $q$, then the "already settled points" is already in fact all the points that you want... Dec 10, 2010 at 13:41
• that's no problem, "already settled" just means the first (approximatively) $n/2$ of $A$ plus their images, and the first $n/2$ of $B$ plus their pre-images. Dec 10, 2010 at 14:03
• Ah, so you are implicitly using an enumeration of the two sets. Okay. Dec 10, 2010 at 14:04
• yes, it was explicit in the lines above. Sorry, I though it was clear enough. Dec 10, 2010 at 18:10
• So, if you fix enumeration for A, how you get enumeration for B? I am trying to construct explicit example. Oct 9, 2022 at 10:00

It is true that given any two dense subsets $A,B\subset(0,1)$, there is an absolutely monotone function $[0,1]\rightarrow[0,1]$ which carries $A$ to $B$. I don't know the exact proof of this, but the idea is very simple: you enumerate the elements of $A$ and $B$, then take the first element of $A$, and associate it with an appropriate element of $B$, then the first element of $B$ and associate it with an appropriate element of $A$, then associate the second element of $A$ to an appropriate element of $B$, etc.

I am fairly certain that some variation on this should work for your problem.

• The question asks for a smooth function Dec 10, 2010 at 13:20
• Also, the problem is not to prove that such functions exist, it's to find out if there are nonlinear examples. Dec 10, 2010 at 14:09