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Let $\phi\colon G\rightarrow H$ be a surjective homomorphism between finite groups. Assume that $\phi$ is not split, in other words there exists no homomorphism $\sigma\colon H\rightarrow G$ such that $\phi \circ \sigma = \text{Id}$.

Question: does there exists an $H$-extension of $\mathbb{Q}$ that is not contained in a $G$-extension?

Some remarks:

  • If $A$ is a finite group and $k$ a field, an $A$-extension of $k$ is by definition a Galois extension $K/k$ with Galois group $A$.
  • You may assume various strong forms of the inverse Galois problem over $\mathbb{Q}$, because I'm just trying to figure out whether this statement is true or not.
  • The answer is affirmative when $\phi$ equals the quotient map $\mathbb{Z}/p^2\mathbb{Z} \rightarrow \mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}$ if $p$ is prime: take a different prime $\ell$ such that the size of $\mathbb{F}_{\ell}^{\times}$ is divisible by $p$ but not $p^2$. Then one can check using the Kronecker-Weber theorem that the unique $\mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}$-extension contained in $\mathbb{Q}(\zeta)$ (where $\zeta$ is an $\ell$-th root of unity) is not contained in a $\mathbb{Z}/p^2\mathbb{Z}$-extension. I think a similar argument works when $G$ (and hence $H$) is abelian.
  • The answer to this question can be no when $\mathbb{Q}$ is replaced by another number field. Indeed, if $k = \mathbb{Q}(i)$ then every quadratic extension lifts to a $\mathbb{Z}/4\mathbb{Z}$-extension by Kummer theory.
  • On the other hand, I would also be interested in the weaker question of whether there exists some number field $k$ which admits an $H$-extension that is not contained in a $G$-extension. There might be more hope to solve this unconditionally.

Any help and comments are appreciated!

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    $\begingroup$ Re $\mathbb{Z}/p^2\mathbb{Z}\to \mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}$: the same argument shows that if any $\ell$ as in your example ramifies in the $H$-extension $k$, then $k$ is not embeddable in a $G$-extension, since the local extension would have to be totally (tamely) ramified, which the hypothesis on $\ell$ precludes. My question is: what is the smallest examples of a non-split surjective map $G\to H$ that splits upon restriction to every soluble subgroup of $G$? For such a map, there won't be a local obstruction as above. $\endgroup$
    – Alex B.
    Commented Jun 22, 2023 at 19:20
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for your comment Alex! I agree that analyzing the local situation completely first is probably the most reasonable thing to do here. $\endgroup$
    – Jef
    Commented Jun 25, 2023 at 18:36
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    $\begingroup$ This is not always true: any homomorphism from the absolute Galois group of any field to $GL_2(\mathbb{F}_p)$ lifts along the surjection $GL_2(\mathbb{Z}/p^2)\to GL_2(\mathbb{F}_p)$, see Proposition 3.3 in this paper by Khare-Larsen arxiv.org/abs/2009.01301v3 The proof is an application of Kummer theory as in your penultimate example. There is also this beautiful paper by Positselski arxiv.org/abs/1606.03880v1 where he gives a general technique for coming up with group surjections for which such automatic liftability happens. $\endgroup$
    – SashaP
    Commented Jun 25, 2023 at 21:02
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    $\begingroup$ (a small nitpick: perhaps in the formulation of the question you want to additionally require that the homomorphism from the Galois group of the ambient $G$-extension to that of the $H$-extension is conjugate to $\phi$? or else there would also be trivial examples when the answer is no: take $G=G'\times H$ with $\varphi$ induced by a non-split surjection $G'\to H$) $\endgroup$
    – SashaP
    Commented Jun 25, 2023 at 21:05
  • $\begingroup$ Fantastic, this is exactly what I'm looking for, thanks SashaP! $\endgroup$
    – Jef
    Commented Jun 25, 2023 at 21:53

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