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For $\varphi$ a first-order sentence in the language of set theory and $\kappa$ an ordinal, let $G_\varphi^{\kappa}$ be the game of length $\kappa$ in which players $1$ and $2$ alternately play elements of $\{0,1\}$ (with $1$ going first at all limit stages) with payoff set $$\{r\in 2^\kappa: \exists\alpha<\kappa(L_\kappa[r\upharpoonright\alpha]\models\varphi)\}.$$ Relative to large cardinal hypotheses, the $G_\varphi^{\omega_1}$s are consistently determined (this follows from work of Steel if I have things right). However, it's not obvious to me what happens beyond $\omega_1$:

Question: Is $\mathsf{ZFC}$ + "Every $G_\varphi^{\omega_2}$ is determined" consistent relative to large cardinals?

I suspect the answer is negative; however, it's not even clear to me that $\mathsf{ZFC}$ proves "There are $\varphi,\kappa$ such that $G_\varphi^\kappa$ is not determined."

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  • $\begingroup$ Do you want $r\restriction \alpha$ as a parameter in $\varphi$? What results of Steel are you referring to? $\endgroup$ Commented May 12, 2023 at 2:14
  • $\begingroup$ @GabeGoldberg I do not want to allow $r\upharpoonright\alpha$ as a parameter in $\varphi$; hopefully, this makes a positive answer more plausible! The Steel results are those from his Long Games paper in the Cabal "Games, scales, and Suslin cardinals" volume. $\endgroup$ Commented May 12, 2023 at 2:43
  • $\begingroup$ @GabeGoldberg I did forget a subscript though, fixed now. $\endgroup$ Commented May 12, 2023 at 5:23

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