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In the 3-dimensional hyperbolic space there are given a plane $\mathcal{P}$ and four distinct lines $a_1, a_2, r_1, r_2$ in such positions that $a_1$ and $a_2$ are perpendicular to $\mathcal{P}$, $r_1$ is coplanar with $a_1, r_2$ is coplanar with $a_2$, finally $r_1$ and $r_2$ intersect $\mathcal{P}$ at the same angle. Rotate $r_1$ around $a_1$ and rotate $r_2$ around $a_2$; denote by $\mathcal{S}_1$ and $\mathcal{S}_2$ the two surfaces of revolution they sweep out. Show that the common points of $\mathcal{S}_1$ and $\mathcal{S}_2$ lie in a plane.

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    $\begingroup$ Where does the question arise from? $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Aug 6, 2022 at 17:17
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    $\begingroup$ It's KöMaL A.538. $\endgroup$
    – TaD
    Aug 9, 2022 at 7:20
  • $\begingroup$ Here is a link to the problem: komal.hu/feladat?a=feladat&f=A538&l=en $\endgroup$
    – Sam Nead
    Aug 11, 2022 at 10:54

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Let $L$ be the geodesic segment in $P$ with one endpoint at $a_1 \cap P$ and the other endpoint at $a_2 \cap P$. Let $b$ be the midpoint of $L$. We define a plane $Q$ by requiring it to contain $b$ and by requiring it to be perpendicular to $L$ (and thus to $P$). Thus reflection in $Q$ exchanges $a_1$ and $a_2$. It is now an exercise to prove that reflection in $Q$ exchanges the “cones” $S_1$ and $S_2$. Thus $S_1 \cap S_2$ lies in the plane $Q$.


Here I am assuming that the lines $r_1$ and $r_2$ actually meet $P$ — the question is slightly unclear on this detail.

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  • $\begingroup$ If the reflection in $Q$ exchanges $a_1$ and $a_2$, $Q$ is the perpendicular bisection plane of the common perpendicular to $a_1$ and $a_2$. But if so, the $S_1$ is not sure to be the reflection of $S_2$ to $Q$. Because $r_1$ is not sure to be the reflection of $r_2$. $\endgroup$
    – TaD
    Aug 11, 2022 at 8:59
  • $\begingroup$ Maybe there's something I misunderstand? $\endgroup$
    – TaD
    Aug 11, 2022 at 9:00
  • $\begingroup$ You are correct that $r_1$ and $r_2$ need not be reflections of each other. But some rotation of $r_2$ is a reflection of $r_1$, because of the angle condition. And that suffices. $\endgroup$
    – Sam Nead
    Aug 11, 2022 at 10:52
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    $\begingroup$ yeah, I think I have understood it. By the way, is the proof the same in the euclidean case? Because the $a_1\cap r_1$ isn't the reflection of $a_2\cap r_2$, the intersection won't be on the "perpendicular bisection plane" $Q$. (Maybe it will be a little left or right to the central?) $\endgroup$
    – TaD
    Aug 11, 2022 at 15:05
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    $\begingroup$ It is, the "determine the position (or distance) by angle" is right only in hyperbolic or spherical cases. $\endgroup$
    – TaD
    Aug 11, 2022 at 15:07

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