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Let $\mathfrak{g}$ be a finite-dimensional nilpotent Lie algebra over an algebraically closed field $k$ of characteristic zero. Throughout, let $x,y$ and $z$ be elements of $\mathfrak{g}$. The Baker-Campbell-Hausdorff series

$$ H(x,y):= x+y +\tfrac{1}{2}[x,y] + \text{(summands with iterated brackets)}$$

is finite. It defines a unipotent group structure $(x,y) \mapsto x \star y := H(x,y)$ on $\mathfrak{g}$ with neutral element $0$ and inverse $x^{-1}:=-x$. If $\mathfrak{g}=\mathrm{Lie}(G)$ for a unipotent group $G$, then the exponential map becomes an isomorphism of algebraic groups (with respect to $\star$), since $\exp(x) \exp(y)=\exp(H(x,y))=\exp(x\star y)$.

Having a group structure on $\mathfrak{g}$, we can define commutators $\langle x,y \rangle:= x\star y \star x^{-1} \star y^{-1} = H(H(x,y),H(-x,-y))$ and ask what is their relation to the bracket $[x,y]$. The Lie bracket is trivial for all $x$ and $y$ if and only if the commutator is trivial for all $x$ and $y$ (the group $G$ is commutative if and only if the Lie algebra $\mathrm{Lie}(G)$ is). It is also easy to prove that if the iterated brackets vanish (meaning that $[x,[y,z]]=0$ for all $x,y,z \in \mathfrak{g}$), then actually $\langle x,y \rangle = [x,y]$ for all $x,y$ and, in particular, also the iterated commutators vanish. I would like to know if the converse is also true, i.e., if vanishing of the iterated commutators implies vanishing of the iterated brackets. Computing this explicitly seems like a nightmare (I do not know of a compact description for $H(x,y)$), so I do not know how to go about this. Actually, are the three following conditions equivalent?

  1. $[x,[y,z]] = 0$ for all $x,y,z$
  2. $[x,y]=\langle x,y \rangle$ for all $x,y$
  3. $\langle x, \langle y,z \rangle \rangle= 0$ for all $x,y,z$
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  • $\begingroup$ The statement "bracket is trivial if and only if the commutator is trivial" is correct but the argument is not correct (unipotent is not a group property, and in any case it can be supposed $G$ is the group of real points of a real group). An argument is that a subspace of $\mathfrak{g}$ is closed under bracket iff it's stable under the group law, and it follows that both conditions are equivalent to $\mathbf{R}x+\mathbf{R}y$ being a Lie subalgebra. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Mar 17, 2021 at 17:06
  • $\begingroup$ I'm not sure what the question is, but it's true that all $d$-iterated commutators vanish iff all $d$-iterated brackets vanish. Indeed the lower central series are the same in the algebra and the group sense. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Mar 17, 2021 at 17:08
  • $\begingroup$ @YCor The second comment might be what I am looking for, do you have a reference in mind? $\endgroup$
    – 57Jimmy
    Commented Mar 17, 2021 at 19:23
  • $\begingroup$ @Ycor As for the first comment: as I mentioned in the question, we are over an algebraically closed field $k$. And when I say "group" I mean "algebraic group over $k$" (as in the tags) (just to clarify). But you are right, I did not write down what I intended (corrected now). $\endgroup$
    – 57Jimmy
    Commented Mar 17, 2021 at 19:36
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    $\begingroup$ OK, actually all this is true for an arbitrary nilpotent Lie $\mathbf{Q}$-algebra (and this applies to your setting, since any Lie algebra over $K$ (extension of $\mathbf{Q}$) is a Lie algebra over $\mathbf{Q}$, possibly infinite-dimensional. That the central series is the same for the bracket and for the group is part of Malcev's results. Basically the proof is by induction, using that if the Lie algebra is $d$-step nilpotent, then the $d$-fold group and Lie commutators are equal. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Commented Mar 17, 2021 at 19:37

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