2
$\begingroup$

i am wondering if there is a complete solution for the equation $a^2+pb^2-2c^2-2kcd+(p+k^2)d^2=0$ in which $a,b,c,d,k$ are integer(not all zero) and $p$ is odd prime.

$\endgroup$
2
  • $\begingroup$ Evidently, there are solutions when $p=3$. wolframalpha.com/input/?i=diophantine+a^2%2B3*b^2%E2%88%922*c^2%E2%88%922*kcd%2B%283%2Bk^2%29*d^2%3D0 $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 10, 2010 at 21:20
  • 2
    $\begingroup$ Extremely unlikely that there is a parametrization of all solutions. What is your background in integral quadratic forms, and, as usual, why do you want to know this? $\endgroup$
    – Will Jagy
    Commented Sep 10, 2010 at 21:41

4 Answers 4

2
$\begingroup$

I'm not getting much 2-adic information for this one, but it should be easy enough to check all solutions mod 8 and mod 16 and see what happens.

To restrict anything, one property requires $p \equiv \pm 3 \pmod 8$ and the other requires $p \equiv 3 \pmod 4.$ Put them together, when $$p \equiv 3 \pmod 8 $$ and $$ p | k, $$ then all four of your letters $$ a,b,c,d = 0.$$ The proof uses two flavors of anisotropy for binaries. The assumption is that at least one of $ a,b,c,d $ is nonzero and $\gcd(a,b,c,d) = 1.$ First we have forced $a^2 - 2 c^2 \equiv 0 \pmod p,$ so $a,c \equiv 0 \pmod p$ as $(2 | p) = -1.$ But then $ p b^2 + p d^2 \equiv 0 \pmod {p^2},$ or $ b^2 + d^2 \equiv 0 \pmod p,$ so $b,d \equiv 0 \pmod p$ as $(-1 | p) = -1.$ So $ p | \gcd(a,b,c,d)$ contrary to assumption.

Otherwise, given a fixed $(p,k)$ once you have a nontrivial solution you get infinitely many using automorphs of the indefinite part in variables $(c,d).$ That is, there may be many parametrized families of solutions of one type or another. But you can figure some of those out with a computer algebra system more easily than I can by hand.

The next interesting case is when $12 k^2 + 8p$ is a square, which means that the binary form $T(c,d)=2c^2+2kcd-(p+k^2)d^2$ factors. So $3 k^2 + 2p$ is a square, which is not possible for even $k,$ so $k$ is odd and $2p \equiv 6 \pmod 8,$ or $p \equiv -1 \pmod 4.$ Unless $p=3$ we also need $p \equiv -1 \pmod 3,$ or $p \equiv -1 \equiv 11 \pmod {12}.$

For example, with $p=11, k=1,3 k^2 + 2p = 25, p + k^2 = 12,$ we have $$ a^2+11b^2-2c^2-2cd+12d^2 = a^2+11b^2-2(c-2d)(c+3d).$$ The value of the factorization is that we can take, for instance, $c = 2 d + 1, c + 3 d = 5 d + 1,$ and $$ a^2+11b^2-2(5d+1) = 0.$$ Now $a^2 + 11 b^2$ is not even unless it is also divisible by $4.$ We also need $ a^2 \equiv b^2 \equiv 1 \pmod 5.$ Put them together, we have a parametrized solution of sorts, with $$ a \equiv 1,4 \pmod 5, \; \; b \equiv 1,4 \pmod 5, \; \; a \equiv b \pmod 2$$ take $c = 2 d + 1$ and $$ d = \frac{ a^2+11b^2-2}{10}.$$

$\endgroup$
2
$\begingroup$

Perhaps it would help if we knew where the question is coming from.

For what it's worth, you can write the equation in the form $$ a^2 + (c-kd)^2 + pb^2 + pd^2 = 3c^2, $$ so you are looking at a parametrized subset of the equation $$ A^2 + B^2 + pC^2 + pD^2 = 3c^2. $$ If $p \equiv 1 \bmod 4$, then $p(B^2+D^2) = R^2 + S^2$ is a sum of two squares, and your solutions must occur among those of $$ R^2 + S^2 + T^2 + U^2 = 3c^2. $$ Both quadrics can be parametrized by the standard method of sweeping lines if you know one solution. For arbitrary primes $p$ such a solution seems to be difficult to find. And even armed with such a parametrization you then would have to figure out which of them satisfy the additional conditions coming from the original equation.

$\endgroup$
1
$\begingroup$

There are lots! Here is a selection:

$(a,b,c,d,k,p)=(3,3,4,1,1,3)$

$(a,b,c,d,k,p)=(3,3,4,1,7,3)$

$(a,b,c,d,k,p)=(3,3,4,2,2,3)$

$\endgroup$
2
  • $\begingroup$ thank you but i need complete solution $\endgroup$
    – M.S
    Commented Sep 10, 2010 at 21:25
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ If $k=0$ and $p \equiv 3 \pmod 8$ then all the other variables are $0$ also. $\endgroup$
    – Will Jagy
    Commented Sep 10, 2010 at 21:32
-1
$\begingroup$

For the equation:

$$a^2+pb^2+(p+k^2)z^2=2c^2+2kcz$$

If the number $k$ is the problem any, and $p$ is such as this: $p=\frac{t^2}{2}-1$

Then the solution can be written:

$$a=\pm{t}n^2+2(tpr\mp(p+1)kj)ns-(2p(p+1)kjr\pm{t}((p+1)(p+k^2)j^2+pr^2))s^2$$

$$b=\pm{t}n^2-2(tr\pm(p+1)kj)ns+(2(p+1)kjr\mp{t}((p+1)(p+k^2)j^2+pr^2))s^2$$

$$z=2(p+1)j((p+1)kjs-tn)s$$

$$c=(p+1)(n^2+((p+1)(p+k^2)j^2+pr^2)s^2)$$

$n,s,j,r$ - integers which we are set.

If you can represent numbers as: $p=3k^2-t^2$

This decision when the coefficients are related through the equation of Pell. $t^2-3k^2=-p$

To simplify calculations we will make this change.

$$x=(\pm{t}-2k)n^2+2j(t\mp3k)ns-(2kj^2+2kpe^2\pm{t}(pe^2-2j^2))s^2$$

$$y=(\pm{t}-2k)n^2+2j(2t\mp3k)ns-(8kj^2+2kpe^2\pm{t}(pe^2-2j^2))s^2$$

$$r=2e(tn-3kjs)s$$

$$f=n^2+(pe^2-2j^2)s^2$$

Then the solution can be written:

$$a=pr^2+(p+k^2)f^2-xy$$

$$b=r(x+y)$$

$$z=f(x+y)$$

$$c=pr^2+(p+k^2)f^2+x^2$$

$n,s,e,j$ - integers which we ask.

$\endgroup$

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .