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Let $(X, \le)$ be a partially ordered set. We call a subset $S \subseteq X$...

  • ... a chain if each two elements in $S$ are comparable with respect to $\le$ (in other words, $S$ is linearly ordered with respect to $\le$).

  • ... directed if for all $x,y \in S$ there exists $z \in S$ that dominates $x$ and $y$.

Obviously, every chain is directed.

Question. Assume that every chain in $X$ has a supremum. Does it follow that every directed set in $X$ has a supremum?

Remarks.

(1) By Zorn's lemma, $X$ has a maximal element (in fact, every element of $X$ is dominated by a maximal element of $X$).

(2) Since the empty set is a chain and thus has a supremum, it follows that $X$ has a smallest element (though this doesn't seem to be particularly relevant to the question).

(3) Let $D \subseteq X$ be directed. We cannot apply Zorn's lemma directedly to $D$ since the supremum of a chain in $D$ might not be in $D$. What we can do is to add the set of all supremuma of subsets of $D$ (whenever they exist) to $D$, and thus obtain a new set $\tilde D$. Then $\tilde D$ is closed with respect to taking suprema, but I cannot see if (and why) $\tilde D$ is directed.

Actually, the answer to the question is yes if and only if this set $\tilde D$ is always directed: the implication "$\Rightarrow$" is trivial, and the implication "$\Leftarrow$" follows from applying Zorn's lemma to $\tilde D$ and from the fact that a maximal element in a directed set is always the supremum of this set.

(4) In general, a directed set does not necessarily contain a co-final chain. For instance, let $\mathcal{F}$ denote the set of all finite subsets of $\mathbb{R}$, ordered by set inclusion. Obviously, $\mathcal{F}$ is directed; but every union of a chain of finite sets if at most countable, so $\mathcal{F}$ does not contain a co-final chain.

(5) Let $D \subseteq X$ be directed. We can apply Zorn's lemma to the set $\mathcal{D}$ of all directed subsets of $D$ that have a supremum in $X$, or to the set $\mathcal{S}$ of all subsets of $D$ that have a supremum in $X$; so $\mathcal{D}$ and $\mathcal{S}$ both have a maximal element $D_{\max}$ and $S_{\max}$, respectively. But I see no way to show that $D_{\max}$ or $S_{\max}$ is co-final in $D$ (and thus equal to $D$).

(6) If $X$ is a lattice (i.e., every (non-empty) finite subset of $X$ has a supremum), then the answer to the question is yes: Indeed, let $D \subseteq X$ be directed, and let $\mathcal{S}$ denote the set of all subsets of $D$ that have a supremum in $X$. Then $\mathcal{S}$ contains all finite subsets of $D$, and $\mathcal{S}$ is stable with respect to monotone unions (i.e., unions of chains). This implies that $\mathcal{S}$ equals the power set of $D$, so in particular, $D \in \mathcal{S}$.

Motivation. In a preprint of mine I briefly considered a similar question in the context of ordered vector spaces, and I remarked that I do not know the answer in this specific vector space setting. Now, I'm about to submit a revision of this preprint, and I noted that I do not even know the answer for general partially ordered sets (without any vector space structure).

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    $\begingroup$ Even though this isn't relevant to your question, I think it's still interesting to point out that the constructive versions of these notions (and relations to fixed-point theorems) appear in the paper “On the Bourbaki-Witt Principle in Toposes” by Bauer and Lumsdaine (except that “directed” is defined as meaning that every finite subset has an upper bound, including the empty set, so: directed+inhabited), and IIUC, it follows from this paper that “chain-complete ⇒ directed-complete” does not hold constructively. $\endgroup$
    – Gro-Tsen
    Dec 11, 2020 at 10:17
  • $\begingroup$ See the paper by George Markowsky. Chain-complete posets and directed sets with applications. Algebra Universalis 6, 1976, pages 53-68. $\endgroup$ Jul 25, 2021 at 4:13

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Yes, a poset that has suprema of all chains also has suprema of all directed sets. This is known, and I vaguely recall seeing it attributed to Solovay. The proof consists of showing, by induction on cardinals $\kappa$, that having suprema of all chains implies having suprema for all directed set of size $\leq\kappa$.

The case of finite $\kappa$ is trivial, since a finite directed set has a top element. The case of $\kappa=\aleph_0$ is almost trivial, since a countable directed set contains a cofinal chain. So assume from now on that $\kappa$ is uncountable and that $D$ is a directed subset of $X$ with $|D|=\kappa$.

Write $D$ as the union of an increasing (with respect to $\subseteq$) transfinite sequence of subsets $D_i$, each of cardinality $<\kappa$. (If $\kappa$ is a regular cardinal, then this sequence necessarily has length $\kappa$, but if $\kappa$ is singular then the sequence can be shorter.) We may assume that each $D_i$ is also directed; just choose for each pair in $D$ an upper bound in $D$, and close each $D_i$ under the "chosen upper bound" function. (The cardinality of the closure will be at most the maximum of $|D_i|^2$ and $\aleph_0$, so it is still $<\kappa$.)

So, by induction hypothesis, each $D_i$ has a supremum $s_i$ in $X$, and, since the $D_i$ form an $\subseteq$-increasing sequence, their suprema $s_i$ form a $\leq$-increasing sequence in $X$. By hypothesis, the sequence of $s_i$'s has a supremum $x$ in $X$, and it is easy to check that this $x$ also serves as the supremum of $D$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks a lot! I could really kick myself... Of course, I've tried induction over the cardinality of $D$, but when I did so, I didn't get how I can choose each $D_i$ to be directed... $\endgroup$ Dec 3, 2020 at 3:04
  • $\begingroup$ Finally, I have also found this result in a book: Proposition 1.5.9 in "Universal Algebra (1981)" by Paul M. Cohn. $\endgroup$ Dec 21, 2020 at 3:48
  • $\begingroup$ By the way, is it fine with you if I thank you for your assistance in the acknowledgements section of an article where I use this result? $\endgroup$ Dec 21, 2020 at 3:48
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    $\begingroup$ @JochenGlueck Yes, that's fine, but please make sure the wording doesn't let people think the result is due to me. $\endgroup$ Dec 21, 2020 at 12:38
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your response. I've made sure that no such misunderstanding can occur. $\endgroup$ Dec 23, 2020 at 23:11

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