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Let $G$ be a compact abelian group. A compact abelian group is said to have dimension $n$ if $\dim_\mathbb{Q} \mathbb{Q}\otimes \hat G = n$. Equivalently one can show that this holds if $G$ is isomorphic to $(\mathbb{R}^n\times \Delta)/\Gamma$ where $\Delta$ is a zero dimensional compact abelian group and $\Gamma$ is a countable discrete subgroup.

The locally connected component of $G$ is the image of $\mathbb{R}^n\times\{0\}$ under this quotient and it is dense in the connected component of $G$. If the locally connected component and the connected component of $G$ coincide then they become a torus in which case $G$ can be written as $G_0\times G/G_0$.

But, clearly this does not have to be the situation.

My question is what about the case where $\Delta$ is a direct product of finite $p$-groups (not always the same prime, say $\Delta = \prod_{p\in \mathbb{Prime}} \mathbb{Z}/p\mathbb{Z}$)? Note that in this case any closed subgroup $H\leq \Delta$ satisfies that $\Delta = H\times \Delta/H$ so this might lead to the desired result.

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  • $\begingroup$ In your 3rd paragraph, the solenoid $G=R\times Z_p/Z$ is connected, because the image of $R\times 0$ is dense. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Nov 4, 2018 at 12:19
  • $\begingroup$ Also note that your definition of dimension is rather a characterization of the topological dimension in this setting. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:14
  • $\begingroup$ @Ycor right it is dense, my bad. I deleted this section. $\endgroup$
    – TopGroups
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:21

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Here's, for any positive integer $k$, a second countable, compact group, of dimension $k$, whose zero connected component is not a topological direct factor. (Edit: below I construct such groups with some additional requirement.)

Let $I$ be any infinite set of primes (all primes if you like). Consider $G=\prod_{p\in I}\mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$. This is an abelian group, whose torsion subgroup is $\bigoplus_{p\in I}\mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$, and the quotient is a torsion-free divisible abelian group, hence isomorphic to some $\mathbf{Q}$-vector space of uncountable dimension. Choose any integer $k>0$, and pick a subgroup of the latter quotient, isomorphic to $\mathbf{Q}^k$, and let $H$ be its inverse image in $G$. (With some little effort, one can construct explicitly such $H$.)

So the torsion subgroup in $H$ is $\bigoplus_{p\in I}\mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$, and the quotient by the torsion is isomorphic to $\mathbf{Q}^k$. This is not splittable as direct product of torsion and torsion-free, since $H$ is residually finite and $\mathbf{Q}$ is not.

Let $K$ be the Pontryagin dual of the discrete group $H$, let $S$ be the Pontryagin dual of $\mathbf{Q}$ (this is a connected, 1-dimensional, torsion-free compact group). Then $K$ admits $S^k$ as closed subgroup (equal to its 0 connected component), and the quotient is topologically isomorphic to the Pontryagin dual of $\bigoplus_{p\in I}\mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$, namely $G$ itself (viewed now as topological group, profinite). This is not part of a splitting as topological direct product, because it was not the case at the dual level.


Edit (1) Concerning your question with additional requirement:

You want a compact abelian group such that (1) it has a closed profinite subgroup, isomorphic to a product of finite groups, such that quotient is a (finite-dimensional) torus, and (2) then $K$ is not direct product of its zero component $K^\circ$ with any closed subgroup.

By Pontryagin duality, this is equivalent to finding a (discrete) abelian group $A$ with the properties: (1') it has a subgroup that is free of finite rank, such that the quotient is a direct sum of finite groups. (2') The torsion subgroup in $A$ is not a direct factor.

The groups $H$ above do not answer this, because the quotient of such $H$ by any nonzero finitely generated subgroup contains a Prüfer group at some prime.


Edit (2). Here is now an example for the question with additional requirement.

Claim: there exists a (discrete) countable abelian group satisfying (1') and (2').

First, consider the subgroup $M$ of $\mathbf{Q}$ generated by all $1/p$ for $p$ ranging over all primes (note that $1/4\notin M$). Then $M/\mathbf{Z}$ is isomorphic to $\bigoplus_p\mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$. We consider a copy of $M$ in $\prod_p \mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z} / \bigoplus_p \mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$ and consider its inverse image $N$ in $\prod_p \mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$. So, if $T$ is the torsion subgroup in $N$, we have $T=\bigoplus_p \mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$ and $N/T\simeq M$.

I claim that this is not split. Indeed, let $x$ be a nontorsion element in $P=\prod_p \mathbf{Z}/p\mathbf{Z}$. Nontorsion means that its support $I$ is infinite. Then $x\in pP$ if and only if $p\notin I$. This shows that $\bigcap_p pP=0$. Hence $P$ has no subgroup isomorphic to $M$ (since $\bigcap_p pM=\mathbf{Z}$).

We have proved (2'). For (1'), lift the copy of $\mathbf{Z}$ in $N$. The quotient $N/C$ by this cyclic subgroup $C$ lies in an extension with kernel $T$, and quotient $M/\mathbf{Z}$, which is also isomorphic to $T$. It follows that $N/C\simeq\bigoplus_p F_p$, where $F_p$ is an abelian group of order $p^2$ for each $p$.

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  • $\begingroup$ When you say "isomorphic to $\mathbb{Q}^k$ or some vector space over $\mathbb{Q}$" you mean isomorphic as abstract groups am I right? Because the direct sum is not a closed subgroup. I'm also confused about the last paragraph, the dual group of $G$ is the direct sum, which is discrete, then how come it admits a connected group as a closed subgroup? $\endgroup$
    – TopGroups
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:20
  • $\begingroup$ I fixed a typo ($K$ is dual of $H$, not of $G$). Except in the first and last paragraph, i.e. when I construct $H$, I consider no topology on the groups. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:27
  • $\begingroup$ Right I see now. You find a compact abelian group $K$ such that $K/K_0$ is a direct product, $\prod_{i\in I}\mathbb{Z}/p_i\mathbb{Z}$ and $K \not =K_0\times \prod_{i\in I}\mathbb{Z}/p_i\mathbb{Z}$. But this doesn't answer my question, is it? To answer my question I think you need to find a group $K$ and a direct product of finite groups $\Delta$ such that $K/\Delta$ is a torus but $K\not = K_0 \times K/K_0$. $\endgroup$
    – TopGroups
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:40
  • $\begingroup$ Your question was somewhat unclear: I answered the question suggested by the title, for which you provided a wrong example in your post. $\endgroup$
    – YCor
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:45
  • $\begingroup$ Oh I see, in this case I will accept this answer. But will leave the comments just to ensure nobody gets confused. I will try to use this example to construct what I need. Thanks $\endgroup$
    – TopGroups
    Nov 4, 2018 at 13:46

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